Teen suicide and homosexuality
This “gay” web site:
http://www.pridesource.com/article.html?article=27845
shows that suicides among “gays” and the “transgendered” can easily happen in a “safe” environment, due to internal problems faced by these people.
Yet, with knew-jerk regularity, the mainstream media focus on the fact that these kids who kill themselves at some time or other had contact with people who did not approve of their lifestyle. Gee, that means people who read the Bible are mean ogres, doesn’t it? (Funny how these same people screaming for “safety” for gays also seem to sympathize with Islam, whose adherents in some countries execute homosexuals).
Laurie Higgins, in the following column, helps us sort this out.
Don
Teen Suicide and Homosexuality
By Laurie Higgins, Director of IFI’s DSA -Illinois Family Institute
The past year has seen the tragic suicides of five young men who identified as homosexual or who were taunted with homosexual epithets. I shouldn’t need to say this, but no one should be harassed or bullied — ever. Children should report bullying to their parents and school authorities; bullying policies should be strictly enforced; and if those who bully continue to bully despite disciplinary measures, they should be removed from schools.
As of the writing of this article, the circumstances surrounding the suicide of one of these young men, Raymond Chase, are still unknown. This account from The Daily Beast, however, seems to contradict the narrative that homosexualists like to spin:
Chase did not seem to struggle with his gay identity — he was out to his friends and family, and to a much larger and accepting social circle. [Ivonne] White (Chase’s best friend) described him as the life of the party, loved by many and hated by none; “Straight guys fist-bumped him. Everyone just wanted to be around him,” she said.
“This is something I want to say to everyone about Ray: He was never, ever bullied, and nobody was ever mean to him,” said White, who thinks Chase could have been a comedian he was so funny. Some of the world’s most beloved comedians, of course, are famous for concealing pain and depression with the Teflon of good humor.
White speculates that her friend might have been upset over a crush he had on a straight boy, a good friend, to whom Chase confessed his affection this summer. Though any romantic feelings were unrequited, the crush treated Chase with utter dignity and respect, before and after the admission. Still, Chase seemed haunted by his feelings, staying up until 4 a.m. the night before his suicide to talk to his roommate about that crush.
The most recent suicide took place at Rutgers University — not known as a bastion of conservatism — where freshman Tyler Clementi was secretly taped engaging in a homosexual act. The video was streamed live on the Internet and the public humiliation proved too much for Tyler: he leaped to his death off the George Washington Bridge.
Despite what homosexualists immediately pronounced, there is no indication that the taping was motivated by anti-homosexual animus. It seems at least possible that the students who engaged in this unconscionable act would have done likewise even if it had been a heterosexual act.
This heartrending tragedy raises many thorny issues that will not likely be addressed or addressed properly by the mainstream media:
– Perhaps it wasn’t the moral views about homosexuality of the students who filmed Tyler that were the problem, but rather that they have grown up in an invasive, obscene culture that has turned sexuality into a public spectator sport and kids into exhibitionists. Just look at the television shows and films that our children watch and the photos that teens post on their Facebook pages to understand better how they view sexuality and modesty.
– Perhaps Tyler felt justifiable shame for both engaging in a shameful act and then having this act made public — and was offered no help in dealing with his impulses, his actions, or his shame. Christian apologist, Ravi Zacharias argues persuasively that a society that no longer feels shame is doomed. The question is not whether shame is good and necessary for quite obviously it is both. The question is, for which actions should we feel shame.
– Perhaps if Tyler had not been taught the bleakly deterministic view that he was “born” homosexual, he would have had more hope for the future and would have been more likely to resist homosexual temptation.
– Perhaps if the culture had not filled Tyler’s head with titillating homosexual images and fallacious ideas, his conscience would have been stronger than his impulses.
– Perhaps if university life were not so decadent and hedonistic, students would not be engaging in sexual acts — heterosexual or homosexual — with the ease and frequency with which they do.
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October 7th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
7 Oct:
Did Shakespeare compose ‘Romeo and Julius?’ Are romantic deviants thus star crossed lovers? Don’t they remember their mother’s admonitions of ‘sticks and stones’? I’m sure they heard the proverb, but it apparently was not heeded. Oh-my, just another victim of cruel society, eh?
Lot knew all about yada-yada. It certainly was evil and not Seinfeld’s impression of innocent human prattle.
awl
October 8th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
I abhor homosexuality and I find it difficult to hate the sin, love the sinner. That difficulty emerged strongly when the homosexual lobby became militant,unashamed and proselytizing. The writer quotes ” The society that no longer feels shame is doomed”.Quite. I have always disliked the notion of “therapy” to purge you of guilt. Hell. no! Some pretentious self-indulgent psycho-babble does not atone for wrong-doing. I’ve do some wrongs,same as everybody else, but I live with them feel shame for them and try to atone for them, then eventually I get to like and respect myself again- as opposed to paying some shyster to tell me it’s ok to like myself, regardless of the wrong. If I did not feel SHAME then what effect curbs would their be on my (or anyone’s) behavior?
No body mentions the elephant in the room what it comes to the high suicide rate of homosexuals and lesbians. Could it be that it is just so unnatural and perverse that even among its practitioners, there is an inherent revulsion that leads to self-loathing? Could it be that it is indeed a mental illness in its own right,as it was classified years ago, before political pressure removed it from the DSMV?
I’m not a big-time God-botherer,( it’s too difficult) but it seems to me that those Christians who passively accept homosexuality are being unlovingly compliant with societal pressures, and wanting to be perceived as “nice” . There is nothing “nice” about accepting a life-style choice that condemns others to premature death and many other negative outcomes. A more loving thing would be to refuse to endorse it, restore the concept of shame, and forgive when redemtion is sought.
October 9th, 2010 at 12:39 am
Great comment, George, esp that least sentence, which says it all.
Just one thing: “It’s too difficult” is my reason for not wanting to go it alone without God.
I am not saying it is easy to be a Christian either. It isn’t, because it is so easy to mess up. And then what? Oh, Dear! I said I was a Christian in front of all these people, and now I messed up and fell flat on my face. I am ruined! I just want to hide behind a rock.
That was one of my excuses that I made to myself too, and it wasn’t just an excuse. I thought Christians had to be almost perfect.
But then I heard a preacher say that if you mess up, just go back to God and ask for forgiveness again.
And then what, you ask?
What if it happens again, and you do the same and then again?
Nothing. It’s always the same. Just go back and ask forgiveness and make a major effort to avoid that sin again. That is what I love about God. He never gives up on a miserable sinner like me.
And what about all those critical people. They hate Christians in the first place, and now this. They saw me trip and fall.
Paul had this awful sin he couldn’t even talk about, and he asked God to help him lose it. But it did not please God to do so, so Paul lived all his life with this awful sin he couldn’t even name!
And then he died and went to be with his Savior who forgave him knowing he was doing the best he could and that he loved God with all his heart.
I don’t know what I would do without that imperfect sinful Apostle Paul to serve as a perfect negative example.
I heard a pastor last Sunday say to his congregation: “I swear if you could see a video of my life from the very start, you would see a ton of FILTH!” I was shocked and a little annoyed at his straightforwardness. And then I realized he was speaking for me too. I could have said the same thing.
We’re not that different, George. Just forgiven.
Don
October 9th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
reads it. It’s true,I have noticed that people love to see Christians fall– have to admit I’ve enjoyed it myself when some holier-than-than-thou-go-to church-every Sunday type gets caught with pants down or hand in the till, but your pastor is right, of course – we are all of us far from perfect beings,and we would do well to remember that, especially when we criticise others. I still have a problem with forgiveness and lack of guilt though, as it is acquired not by how it is supposed to be acquired, by many Christians and some from other religions.
I once worked with a Catholic who would have stolen the Statue of Liberty from you if you had turned your back fro two minutes. He was never out of the chapel. He goes to confession, unloads and does some of the mumbo-jumbo, and feels better. In the Church’s eyes, he ahs not been truly redeemed, but in his eyes he has, he would bounce out of the chapel mind go and work his next scam.My position is not quite ” guilt is good” but more “guilt is necessary” because you will try harder to avoid it!
October 9th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Sorry, this sentence missing from the beginning of the posting above!
Thanks for that Don and for the spirt of its giving- for the benefit of my spirit, and for anyone else who reads it
October 9th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
George,
Words of wisdom:
“Guilt is necessary.” So true.
This is the very issue that makes me despise the psychology “profession.” These miscreants believe people need to get rid of guilt.
October 15th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
When man makes covenant with God and accepts Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and Saviour, we become one with Him. The worldly, sinful things we once sought after we should be turning our backs on and the Spiritual things of God should now be the focus of our attention. In covenant we exchange things. The covenanters friends become our friends and their enemies become our enemies. In essence we are on the same side of the fence in covenant. The things that God loves, we should love; and the things that God hates, we should hate. That being said, I would turn your attention to the following scriptures:
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
1 Timothy 4:1 ¶Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Psychology cannot sooth the conscience or correct the sin problem. It is only through true repentance we find forgiveness and peace.
Could it be that many of the suicides of these people are committed because their conscience bothers them so bad they cannot live with themselves?
Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Psalms 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Many have said, “hate the sin, love the sinner”. (chapter and verse please). I would ask, how can God be angry with the wicked and love them at the same time. God is a Holy God and cannot look on sin nor have fellowship with those who continue in it.
The key to freedom is repentance.
Richard
May 16th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
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