Why Russian law shields against some proselytizing

Why Russian law shields against some proselytizing

 

by Don Hank

A few religions that were recent implants in Russia have now been refused re-registration or have had their work curtailed. These include Jehova’s Witnesses, Mormon and Scientology.

In view of Russia’s 20th Century history, it is no surprise that these churches are not welcomed with open arms. Russia has returned to its Christian roots and groups like these are not traditional.

In fact, I have interacted with Jehovah’s Witnesses and discovered that their Bibles are slightly different at one crucial passage: John 1, where John wrote of Jesus, calling him the Word:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

In the JW translation, this is changed to:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 

Why did the JWs decide upon this translation? Two reasons:

1—It fits in with their idea that Jesus was not a deity, and

2—In the “original” Greek manuscript, the word God is written in John 1 without the definite article (analogous to the word “the” in English). In most cases, the word for “God” in the NT is preceded by the article (o).

However, there are 2 reasons we can know that this translation is erroneous:

1—The definite article “o” is not used obligatorily with the word God (theos). I went through the Nestle’s NT and found 36 instances of the word for God not preceded by the article.

2—While from a purely theoretical standpoint, one would have to admit that the word theos could be rendered, in some contexts, as “a god,” the real clincher is that the Hebrews were monotheists and did not have or accept the concept of multiple gods. This chapter we are discussing, John 1, makes it clear that the early Christians did not think of Jesus as separate from God the Father. Therefore, John 1 does indeed teach that Jesus was God. They were, in the Judeo-Christian theology, one and the same person in different forms. The Russians do not accept this Jehovah’s Witness teaching. It’s their country, they decide.

As for Scientology, I went to the pertinent web site and saw that there is no mention of God at all. To a Russian, no God means no religion. No religion reminds them of 70 years of hell under tyrants.

Yes, very dogmatic, and if you belong to a non-traditional “religion,” then Russia is not a good place to be. On the other hand, a Russian scientologist should be able to continue to practice this religion at home.

As for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, it is easy to see why this religion would not be accepted as bona fide traditional Christianity by the traditional (some detractors say reactionary) Russians.

The Russians are skitterish about new groups, especially from other countries or whose belief systems come from abroad.

Consider what they have been through:

For 200 years, the Russian people groaned under the yoke of the Tatars, a horde of barbarians who exacted taxes from them, just as radical Islamists do today to non-Muslims. In fact, shortly after the Tatars conquered Russia, they became Muslims. At that point one might say they were collecting the jizya

Later, they were invaded by Bonaparte and then by Hitler, 2 foreigners who all but destroyed their country and slaughtered millions of them.

Further, a foreigner – the German Karl Marx – introduced an ideology – communism – from abroad and a few radicals adopted this idea. It is not known whether Lenin was even ethnic Russian (it is speculated that he may have been Chuvash, Mordvin or Kalmyk), but whatever the case, he hated the Russian nationality and wrote this on at least one occasion.  As for Putin, he has dissed Lenin on one occasion. Popular Russian duma member Vladimir Zhirinovsky quotes from Lenin in a recent speech to show that Lenin hated Russians. (BTW, Rabid Neocon activists claim communism never died in Russia. So how do they explain this?).

According to Nobel laureate Solzhenitsyn in his book 200 Years Together, 85% of the top level Bolsheviks who followed Lenin were Jewish. I am not addressing herein the historical veracity of this report, just saying what Russians believe to be true.

In fact, Putin addressed a group of prominent Jewish leaders in Russia a few years ago and told them this story. But Putin came from a staunch Soviet background and was therefore not anti-Jewish. One of the pillars of Soviet creed was that they, as the victors in the Great Patriotic War, stood in contrast to the fascists that they had defeated, particularly in terms of their attitude toward the Jews. Thus, in telling these Jews this story, he just wanted them to know this and told them in a friendly way. He also was subtly reminding them that any attempt to return to a Russia under non-Russian rulers hostile to Orthodoxy would not be tolerated.

Lest anyone think Putin has an anti-Jewish streak, note that he has met with Netanyahu many times in the last few years, even as Obama shunned the latter. And every time they get together Putin reminds him that, despite their differences, their 2 peoples have a lot in common, both having suffered horribly at the hands of the fascists during the Third Reich.

In other words, foreign ideas and people unattached to the Orthodox culture of Russia are seen as the originators of the 70 years of pain and tyranny of Russia. Putin himself has spoken disparagingly of Lenin, for example, and has suggested that Lenin was not a good Russian.

The Russians have a right to their opinion that it was non-Russians who destroyed their country. Clearly, if it had not been for this non-Russian (notably, non-Orthodox) interference in their history, they would not have gone through the painful experience of having atheism shoved down their throats and being forced to live under tyranny for 70 bitter years.

That in a nutshell is their motivation in wanting to stay free of foreign religions and ideologies and allowing Russian Orthodoxy to flourish without excessive interference.

Like the Jews who survived the holocaust, they too are saying “never again.” Their experience too was a holocaust.

 

Full text translation of Chapter 15 of 200 Years Together

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/25/russia.books

 

Mr. Trump, why did you meet with my husband’s murderer?

Read it here

The only way Europe can be saved

Fox News recently reported that there are some 400 ISIS fighters poised to unleash hell against the foolish Europeans who insist on importing them to their shores in the vain hope that they will somehow assimilate and learn “European values.”

So why this is happening in Europe and not the US?

This is happening there primarily because the European governments and in particular the EU have invited people from Muslim terror-exporting countries into European countries, where Muslims who are hostile to Westerners and their “values” have been able to settle in enclaves and no-go zones and live without integrating, while receiving welfare and social services from their beneficent hosts.

Therefore,

1—Their children never learn European values

2—European values do not include any religion but only disdain for religion. Ultimately, they are not values at all but rather anti-values. If you ask a typical European about his religious views he will be quick to offer a litany of things that he does not believe but almost nothing that he holds dear and reveres let alone worships. Muslims cannot be expected to accept this blasphemous and disrespectful view as a viable alternative to their strong faith.

You cannot fight Islamic terrorism from an atheistic standpoint because atheism is not a standpoint. It offers people nowhere to stand, just a floating platform where no one feels secure. Thus by shunning religion Europeans offend them deeply.

If Europe were a bastion for a masculine, vibrant and and strong brand of Christianity, this obstinate rejection of Europe would not be happening, for at least 3 reasons:

1—Christians would understand that Islam is incompatible with Christianity and Christian Europeans would not invite them into their midst as readily as do atheistic Europeans, whose “leaders” entertain an unrealistic hope that Muslims can be turned into cookie-cutter images of themselves. And believe me, Muslims know, and resent, that this is the ultimate aim and are not about to give up their faith in God for anything. I have spoken with serious minded young Muslims who immediately warmed up to me and respected me when I told them of my belief in Christ. It was as if I was precisely the kind of Westerner they were looking to befriend. A common complaint among them was Western atheism. One of them told me he had lived and studied in France for 11 years and had never met anyone who believed in God.

2—Strong Christians would not hesitate to witness to Muslims for Christ, and Muslims, for their part, would instinctively understand that Christians revere and honor their Christ and their God in the same way as Muslims honor Allah and Mohammed. Contrary to the squishy European view, this would not necessarily be offensive to Muslims because they would see strong witnesses for Christ who held firmly to traditional Christianity with its rejection of immoral sexual lifestyles.

3—Whereas many Europeans, particularly on the right, show hatred toward Muslim immigrants, these immigrants would sense that Christians do not hate them and in fact love them and want to see them leave their violent religion and come to Christ.

Unfortunately, the only Christians they meet in Europe are the squishy ones who are afraid to witness for Christ to a Muslim. Some even see Islam and Christianity as branches of the same tree of faith when in fact, Koranic Islam is a neurotic construct that has adopted a few features of Christianity while rejecting the core of it and, out of the other side of its mouth, mocking and despising the People of the Book. (I explain this here in detail).

Whereas atheism offers them nothing attractive, solid and viable, a masculine and firm but loving Christian faith offers them a viable alternative to the belief in a violent and intolerant god who demands from his faithful a constant fountain of blood from the veins of unbelievers.

If Europe ever rediscovers the redeeming faith in Jesus Christ and returns to its roots the way the Russians have done after years of religious repression, they will automatically find the solution to the Islamic terror that has it in its grip.

If you want a glimpse of what a strong, masculine redeemed European might look like, I would urge you to read this report on the Russian Christian activist group known as the Night Riders.

 

Implications of the Jaffe Memo for Christians in Society

[This is adapted from a much longer essay by Laigle’s contributor Anthony Horvath, which can be read here. Anthony is a pro-life speaker and the president of Wisconsin Lutherans for Life.]

Former Planned Parenthood clinic director Abby Johnson has set the pro-life blogosphere on fire with her posting of the ‘Jaffe Memo,’ a memorandum written by Frederick S. Jaffe, former vice-president of Planned Parenthood.  Jaffe apparently was in charge of PP’s population control agenda.  The memo was written in 1969.

The memo appears to be legit but I haven’t been able to find its original source.  Read it.

This memo has all sorts of blood chilling suggestions- blood chilling if the culture of death does not run through your veins, that is.  Ideas on controlling world population include:

  • Fertility control agents in the water supply
  • Encourage women to work
  • Require women to work and provide few child care facilities
  • Compulsory abortion of out-of-wedlock pregnancies
  • Compulsory sterilization of all who have two children- except for a few who would be allowed three
  • Discouragement of private home ownership
  • Allow certain contraceptives to be distributed non-medically
  • Make contraception truly available to all

Some of my more predictable readers will go through that list and their eyes will simply glaze over for most of it.  With their eyes in a fog as they instinctively declare the above as merely an instance of “Godwin’s Law” but their blood started boiling when they saw on the list “Encourage women to work.”

Dear God, who could be against that? And who could be against making contraception available to everyone?  Clearly, this blogger is a bigot.

I included that item in order to make a very important point. Continue reading

The power of a single blogger and his faith

The bill sought to give government the power to exercise out and out thought control and would have criminalized any speech construed as ‘antigay.’ It amounted to nothing less than a direct ban on biblical Christianity.”

Friends, the Western world is falling into the hands of the wicked. I solicit your prayers for our brother Julio, who has suffered great persecution and is still in hiding. At the end of this article are some links to his site. Check it out. Keep in mind that Julio and his family are fugitives because of the stand he takes and the cold-blooded viciousness of gay activists and their minions in the Brazilian government. Imagine being hunted like an animal for your beliefs. Please give as you are led.

Blogs as tools to express the voice of God’s Kingdom

By Julio Severo

A few days ago I received a message from a visitor who recently became acquainted with my blog:

Julio, how are you?

Last Tuesday (26/April/2011) I was having a nap at lunch time and  a name came to me in a dream. I am not in the habit of writing down my dreams, but the name was very clear. I woke up and wrote down the name: JULIO SEVERO.

I had never heard your name before and when I got home I googled it and saw that you are also a Christian and that you fight to preserve Gospel principles from corruption.

Well, I do not believe in coincidences…

I do not believe in coincidences either, at least not this kind.

In my interview with Christianismo Hoje* (the Brazilian version of the magazine Christiany Today) I said,

Early in 1995 I clearly felt God directing me to write a book about the threat posed by the homosexual movement. For weeks, I hesitated, because the homosexual issue was a formidable taboo. There were no gay parades in Brazil, and none of the homosexual obsession we see everywhere today, in the schools, the media, etc. After some time, I overcame my fears, accepted the calling of the Spirit, and began to research the homosexual movement. When, by mid-1995, the first international conference of ILGA in the South Hemisphere was held in Brazil, I understood God’s plan to call me into the battle, because after the conference, Brazilian gay groups made an extraordinary push to advance their agenda. God anticipated this spiritual assault from hell with an action of the agenda of God’s Kingdom. Thus my book “O Movimento Homossexual” (The Homosexual Movement), was born and was published by Editora Betânia, the Brazilian branch of Bethany House Publishers, in1998.

When my book “O Movimento Homossexual” was published in 1998, many thought it was an exaggeration and said that forecasts would never come true. Sadly, they eventually did. And today its readers call me a prophet. The exaggerater of yesterday is today’s prophet.

In 1999, on receiving an autographed copy of my book “O Movimento Homossexual,” Bishop Robson Rodovalho said that he had received the revelation that in the future I would be severely persecuted because of the message of my book, and be forced to flee from place to place. It was an accurate prophecy, but I am sad that the one who delivered it eventually joined the political system that spawned PLC 122 and other absurdities. PLC 122 is the most threatening anti-“homophobia” bill in the Brazilian Congress.

In 2002, even without a blog, I began to warn against an electoral victory for socialist Luiz Inácio “Lula” da Silva. In 2003, with just a page of articles in the Brazilian Christian website JesusSite, I revealed to Brazil for the first time that the Lula administration had introduced in the United Nations (UN) a resolution classifying homosexuality as an inalienable human right. This was the first time this kind of initiative had come before the UN.

After I reported on this, a Representative in the Brazilian Congress requested an accounting from the Brazilian government because Brazilian representatives at the UN were taking actions without the knowledge of the Brazilian people and Congress. There was also a petition against the Lula administration’s resolution.  JesusSite suffered an attack by hackers and went down. Despite many threats it received pressuring me to remove my articles, JesusSite* stayed firm.

The pioneering resolution from the Lula administration in the UN never advanced, and ILGA, the largest homosexual organization in the world, complained that grass-roots resistance in Brazil stemming from “extremist” websites was helping to deter the resolution. Who said that today there are no little Davids to take down  massive Goliaths?

With the Lula administration’s obsessive pro-sodomy policies, the message of my book, which had been seen as exaggerated, was now coming into focus. Even congressmen were making references to my book in their official speeches in the Congress.

At the inspired insistence of a brother in the Mid-Night Call Ministry, I eventually created a blog at the beginning of 2005, with this brother guiding me in the first steps. The first year, I published very little.

Only later did I begin issung warnings to Brazil more regularly. And God honored me. At the same time, philosopher and Reformed theologian Harold O. J. Brown invited me to write the leading article in his academic periodical The Religion & Society Report. The essay was published in August 2006 and is available in an online version. This was the first time my watch dog ministry was acknowledged by a respectable international publication.

Through my blog, my still small voice was now showing the United States and the world the homosexualist face of Lula and his socialist ideology. Brown told me he did not realize that Lula was so radical, and he wanted to help people outside Brazil learn the truth.

In 2007, I was interviewed by LifeSiteNews, the largest Catholic pro-life news website in the world. It was my small voice echoing with immutable values that transcend frontiers.

Yet, as far as the performance of my simple blog is concerned, the most remarkable aspect in 2007 was the awareness effort against PLC 122, the anti-“homophobia” bill introduced by a member of PT (Lula’s party) in the Brazilian Congress. The bill sought to give government the power to exercise out and out thought control and would have criminalized any speech construed as “antigay.” It amounted to nothing less than a direct ban on biblical Christianity. In February 2007, a group of influential conservative Catholics contacted me to launch an awareness effort. They had read my writings on homosexuality, prepared a paper based on my articles and wanted me just to put my signature in it. Their role would be to spread the message. My role would be to lend my name.

The campaign made great strides. After March 2007, the awareness movement grew like wildfire and was soon unstoppable, having struck the consciences of many people. But there was a price to pay. The same year the campaign was launched, gay activists, in their effort to thwart me, managed to convince Google in Brazil to shut down my blog. With the intervention of Brazilian philosopher Olavo de Carvalho, in an article in the paper Jornal do Brasil denouncing attacks against me, and protests from several lawyers, including an attorney who called Google, my blog came back online.  

Before February 2007, I had already intended to  oppose PLC 122. Yet, in the months of November and December 2006 and January 2007, I was hiding in a refuge with my family, because of persecution.

Before this persecution, God had used a former homosexual to warn me that the devil was trying to destroy me. November happened to be the month that PLC 122 was approved in the House of Representatives in Brazil. Lacking the means to act, I dunned Dr. Zenóbio Fonseca for several weeks to write an article against the anti-“homophobia” bill, because his special legal knowledge was vital. His consulting work allowed him little time, but eventually he managed to write the article. Next, the Catholic message* to mobilize Brazilians was ready, and it was sent to countless thousands of email addresses and other media.

The sequel was that hundreds of blogs, not to mention thousands of people forwarding e-mails against PLC 122, became such a strong chain that the passage of this bill, which was taken for granted because of the influential and imposing support of government and media, eventually became uncertain, because of the resistance, particularly from Evangelical and Catholic blogs.

Catholic and Evangelical magazines — with a shallow Christianity and deep-rooted political ideologies — either ignored the story or gave it short shrift. Had it been up to them, Brazil would today be in thrall to the Kingdom of the Workers’ Party, of Dilma Rousseff and her antecessor Lula, with the passage of PLC 122 hovering like a sword over the heads of prophetic Christians.

Yet, blogs speaking with the voice of God’s Kingdom are having a major impact in opposing the massive power of magazines, papers and TV channels that mirror — and are paid to mirror — the voice representing the ideology and system of state idolatry.

And unlike evangelical TV shows, which ignore or fail to denounce the government’s promotion of aberrations like PLC 122, pro-family blogs are not afraid to speak out against state threats.

The strong resistance to PLC 122 today is a symbol of what can happen when humble little blogs serve as a vehicle for the voice of God’s Kingdom. If one blog makes a lot of people uncomfortable, a host of blogs united in the same effort much more effectively spread the uncomfortable truth that shakes people into action.

In the wilderness of disinformation from magazines, newspapers and blogs that reflect the voice of the political machine and its ideology, God can lead, even through dreams, those who need to know the truth.

This is the value God assigns to blogs that carry His voice.

Do you want be used by God through a blog? Hear and mirror His voice.

PS:

Dear Donhttp://acapa.virgula.uol.com.br/blogs/cindy-butterfly/fanatismo-religioso-um-dia-de-furia!/100/13513/

Let me tell you something important, which perhaps your readers would like to know. Today, as the articles I sent you today show, the Brazilian Senate would vote PLC 122, the anti-“homophobia” bill, but I encouraged Brazil to resist and in the afternoon today the largest gay website in Brazil reported that because of me and another evangelical, who is a televangelist, the anti-“homophobia” bill was not voted today!! See here:

Praise God!

Julio

Reviewed by Don Hank.

* These are Portuguese links. Links without an asterisk are English links.

Portuguese version of this article: Blogagem profética

Spanish version of this article: Blogging profético

Source: Julio Severo in English

www.lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com

Other articles by Julio Severo:

Why I am not a socialist

Akhtar Hussain, thank you for making the right choice

I am grateful. Your choice left no grieving widows or orphans that night.

by Don Hank

My Muslim friend Mahmoud sent me an email with an attachment regarding a Pakistani man, Akhtar Hussain, who burned a Bible at a church in Pakistan as a protest against the Koran burning by Terry Jones. The desecrator was arrested and charged with a crime that carries a sentence of up to 10 years.

Mahmoud said that the Bible is a holy book in the Muslim world as well, is himself incensed by this act and is interested in my reaction. Ok.

First I wish I had Mr. Hussain before me. I would like to thank him for making the right choice.

Hear me out, please.

The Christian Post reported the reaction of world Christendom to the Bible burning. It was the usual bland politically correct pabulum, uttered for the consumption of their constituents: “we condemn this act of desecration…”

It was utter hypocrisy, because these clergy desecrate the scriptures constantly by distorting the Word of God every chance they get.

World “Christendom” today is increasingly tolerant of the most crass and outrageous desecration of the scriptures by the clergy. Every Sunday from the pulpit and in their weekday communications with the secular world, “Christian” pastors routinely distort the Word of God, blasphemously declaring that God accepts homosexual marriage and homosexual priests and pastors. They constantly desecrate the legitimacy of government, at variance with the exhortations of Jesus and the Apostle Paul. Jesus said to give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. Paul said the authorities are given their power by God.

Yet most denominations today illegitimately strip the Constitution and the will of the people (in whom governing power is vested) of their authority by endorsing illegal immigration and providing sanctuaries for law breakers.

Many pastors also substitute godless socialism for the legitimate gospel of Jesus Christ, trampling on the “bread of life” doctrine and elevating the doctrine of material bread high above it.

Still others, while claiming to represent conservative Christians, support leftist dogma or godless far-left candidates.

Muslims love it when Christian leaders condemn people for doing what Akhtar Hussain did. And they love it when we say “people like that belong in jail.” It brings them closer to their goal of having the West make laws that protect holy books, at variance with the Constitution and the Magna Carta.

They are hoping that softheaded American Christians will get behind a new bill that may be proposed shortly by the Democrats and one GOP jackass, Lindsay Graham (have you see the video? He really is one), and that is, a bill that would outlaw desecrating the Koran. Now, mind you, the US military burned 2500 Bibles in Afghanistan that were the private property of military personnel, and that is fine with the clergy. Not one Christian leader said “we condemn this act of desecration.” And, while Christian leaders condemn (they seem to savor that word) Terry Jones for sullying a false religion that honors murderers, not one of them objects to the new proposed freedom-crushing legislation.

But what should be done to Akhtar Hussain, you ask?

Well, what would Jesus do?

When Jesus was being murdered, He cried out to His Father: Forgive them for they know not what they do.

Mr. Hussain is a Muslim. For him, the Bible is not holy. For some Muslims it is, but not for all. For him it is not a holy book.

He has not read the Bible and doesn’t know about the saving power and grace of Jesus’ blood.

If the ones who killed Jesus were to be forgiven for their ignorance (even without asking forgiveness), don’t you think Mr. Hussain will be forgiven for his ignorance of the life-giving message of salvation?

I don’t know the answer to that question. If they were Christian clergy desecrating the Word, as is their wont, then there could be no forgiveness, because they know the Word and they know what God expects, and they desecrate the Word in spite of it. So don’t be surprised at how few preachers and priests you see in heaven.

But Hussain probably doesn’t know any of this.

One thing is certain: Hussain’s punishment is not a question for men to decide. God will decide the issue when Mr. Hussain comes before Him at the Seat of Judgment.

When men try to judge people on religious matters and create “religious crimes,” as the Pakistani legislature has, and as Lindsay Jackass Graham and his fellow jackasses on the other side of the aisle want to do in our country, then God is displeased because they are doing what the crowd was doing when they tried to stone the adulteress. Because this is not our domain.

Here is what I say to Akhtar Hussain:

As a Christian, I am saddened that you burned the Bible, but that act proved you don’t understand the Bible. To understand it is to love it, unless you belong to Satan.

But then, for you, given your upbringing, and given what Terry Jones did to a book that you consider holy (wrongfully so), you had a choice. You could have taken a human life or you could have burned that Bible, as you did.

As a result of your choice, there were no grieving widows or orphans that night, just a little pile of ashes and a minuscule quantity of carbon added to the atmosphere of your fair city. God was sad, but He knows your fate and perhaps He is waiting for you to make another choice now.

That’s all you did, and it could lead to something really wonderful. My fingers are crossed.

Not only that, your choice gave Christians all over the world the opportunity to witness to Muslims like you, and, not counting the stupidity of our clergy, we did it by our restraint and tolerance.

Not one Christian anywhere in the world harmed a Muslim over this act of yours. It was not a Christian but a Muslim policeman who placed you under arrest and it will be a Muslim judge to sentence you.

The entire Muslim world can see the contrast between Pakistan’s harsh Sharia law and the angry murderers in Afghanistan and Iraq on the one hand and, on the other, the shining example set by forgiving Christians, who, rather than speak ill of you, pray for you sincerely and wish you the best. I join them tonight in praying that you will find Jesus and that God will bring you great peace, joy, prosperity and happiness.

I also sincerely pray that the judge will be lenient.

Thank you for making the right choice.

Muslims massacre Christians after getting UN support. Obama and European leaders silent. UN does nothing to stop massacre. The West’s involvement in the Middle East is consistently anti-Christian, pro-Muslim, promotes savagery:

 http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/04/muslim-troops-slaughter-1000-civilians-in-ivory-coast-massacre/

Muslim apologetics and Christian responses

by Don Hank

I had shared with the reader my response to a Muslim whom I debated over the differences between Christianity and Islam.

I had thought it would be worthwhile to some as a template for Christian apologetics with Muslims. I had mentioned some of Mahmoud’s arguments, but had not included his lengthy argument.

Below I share it with the reader, in addition to some further rebuttals to his claims.

It is noteworthy that Mahmoud – like many Muslim intellectuals today – makes no attempt to apologize for the violent acts of his fellow Muslims.

Instead, intriguingly, he uses the Bible as an excuse for such behavior.

I had later left a message for him that must have left him dumbfounded, because he pleaded in the last email “please, no more discussion.”

The Muslim world is used to our wishy-washy responses to their arguments. They are used to dealing with Westerners who know nothing about the Bible and whom they can twist them around their little fingers.

This is why having the ability to defeat them at this game is no small contribution to the continued survival of Western civilization. My victory over Mahmoud was our victory. He knows he can’t proceed to the next level of this debate. He has been defeated both intellectually and morally and will never forget the rebuttals he received from me and my friends. I want to thank all who helped with this debate, especially with the scriptural rebuttals. I could not have done it alone without your, and God’s, help. BTW, I suspect even atheists can appreciate the advantage we have when we arm ourselves with the full armor of God. (And by that I do not mean the wishy-washy social gospel).

A few quick notes here:

It is very true that the Old Testament calls for violent punishments for all sorts of misdemeanors, many of which are no longer considered as such anywhere in the West.

Nor did Jesus say these were to be abolished.

And the Muslims use this lack of direct abolition of the ancient law to show that the Old Testament laws still stand. Which they do, but with a very important proviso.

Jesus did something more important and more poignant than directly stating the Law was abolished. He was not in a political position to say this directly, and He really didn’t want to abolish the law, just the way it was enforced all too often by heinous sinners and hypocrites.  So He taught by example.

For example, the law whereby adultery is to be punished by stoning was indirectly replaced by the concept of grace when Jesus confronted the crowd that was about to stone and adulteress and said:

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

When no one stepped forward, Jesus had masterfully shown that, while God is still displeased with sin, none of us is worthy to administer the punishment. Only God can do that. By extension, this applies to all of the Hebrew laws requiring harsh punishments.

And yet, as if to rebuke the “liberals” of His day and ours, Jesus added, addressing the adulteress:

“Go and sin no more.”

He meant it. So in that sense, the law was not abolished, just as He said it was  not (I am come not to abolish the law but to fulfill the law).

But the Muslims ignore this all-important nuance, and they quote the above claim by Jesus to show triumphantly that the law still stands and that they have the right to mete out harsh punishments by terror and stoning. In fact, they sometimes claim that parts of the Bible have been falsified and that this sort of thing never happened.

Their “Prophet” re-wrote the scriptures to satisfy his own thirst for violence and vengeance and for sexual gratification, and they honor him for it. Nothing could be more evil and diabolical. They even say we are blaspheming when we reject their prophet’s words. They miss the irony of Mohammed blaspheming against Christ by calling Him a mere prophet on a level with Mohammed, denying His position as Master and Savior and denying His crucifixion and resurrection.

As you can see from Mahmoud’s text below, much of what the Muslims believe about Jesus is the same as the Christian creed, except for a few points such as the crucifixion and resurrection, as mentioned above. Yet these nuances make the difference between a medieval society that scarcely functions and a high-powered dynamic society that produces scientific wonders and enables people to live at relative peace.

Finally, the Muslims claim Jesus never said He was God.

I was about to go look for scripture to rebut this, but just as I switched back to my email, a new email came in from a brother in Christ who has been a mentor to me.

Here he writes exactly what I was about to look for (the comments are his):

John 20: 

27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

 29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”

Note that Jesus did not correct him as He should and would have if it were not true, and He accepted his worship.

John 10

while the casual reading public today might not get the full meaning of what Jesus said here, the rulers sure did.

32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?”

33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.”

Look at what Peter said.

18 And it happened that while He was praying alone, the disciples were with Him, and He questioned them, saying, “Who do the people say that I am?”

 19 They answered and said, “John the Baptist, and others say Elijah; but others, that one of the prophets of old has risen again.”

 20 And He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” And Peter answered and said, “The Christ of God.”

 21 But He warned them and instructed them not to tell this to anyone,

Luke 69

69 “But from now on THE SON OF MAN WILL BE SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND of the power OF GOD.”

 70 And they all said, “Are You the Son of God, then?” And He said to them, “Yes, I am.”

 71 Then they said, “What further need do we have of testimony? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth.”

John 8

57 So the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”

 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”

 59 Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple.

[Before going into Mahmoud’s arguments, I just happened to have received a link from a sister in Christ that shows how wimpy “Christian” pastors side with Muslims in distorting the scriptures: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/011/bell.htm

Here is a great patriotic speech on this subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeyrp-V3Jvc&feature=player_embedded]

—– Original Message —–

From:xxx

To: zoilandon@msn.com

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:17 PM

Subject: RE: Blasphemy Laws in Bible

JESUS in the QURAN

The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews , who rejected Jesus as a Prophet of God, called him an impostor. The Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such.

Islam considers Jesus to be one of the great prophets of God and respects him as much as Ibrahim (Abraham), Moses, and Mohammed. (Peace Be Upon Them) This is conformity with the Islamic view of the oneness of God, the oneness of Divine guidance, and the complementary role of the subsequent mission of God’s messengers.

WE MUSLIMS BELIEVE; 

THAT JESUS WAS ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST MESSENGERS OF GOD, 

THAT HE WAS THE CHRIST, 

THAT HE WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY – WITHOUT ANY MALE INTERVENTION, 

THAT HE GAVE LIFE TO THE DEAD BY GOD’S PERMISSION, 

AND THAT HE HEALED THOSE BORN BLIND AND THE LEPERS BY GOD’S PERMISSION. 

IN FACT NO MUSLIM IS A MUSLIM IF HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS!”

Now you people are free to apply what you want…! Where we insult the Jesus(pbuh)..? Where we make fun of him…? We Muslims can’t even think like this…!  even in Iran, where you think people can’t have freedom of speech. or in USA, the champion of freedom, we are same every where for the respect of Jesus(pbuh) and Bible(book of God).


From: zoilandon@msn.com
To: Subject: Re: Blasphemy Laws ib Bible
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:16:09 -0500

I asked that because it is my understanding that Jesus is not considered the Savior by Muslims. I didn’t say he wasn’t a prophet. I said Muslims think he is ONLY a prophet and nothing more.

—– Original Message —–

From: xxx To: zoilandon@msn.com

Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 6:48 PM

Subject: RE: Blasphemy Laws ib Bible

If any insults the Jesus(pbuh) and the book reveald on to him, sure put to death. more, if a muslim just thinks about it, next moment he is not a Muslim.
 
as u said, its a blasphy to say Jesus(pbuh) is a prophet…. then you have to prove that he is not a Prophet.
 
let me see a single verse of bible which discribes clearly, he said “he is God” or “worship me” ….! simple..! 
 
As in Islam:

 “There is no god but God, the One and Only, without partner, and Muhammad is only the messenger and servant of God.”
 
waiting your response……
 
and see attachmnt, what we Muslims think about Jesus(pbuh) and tunderstand the book Ingeel(The Bible).


From: zoilandon@msn.com
To: Subject: Re: Blasphemy Laws ib Bible
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:12:23 -0500

So does this mean you think that Muslims must be put to death for blaspheming against the Bible and saying Jesus is only a prophet?

—– Original Message —–

From:  xxxx

To: zoilandon@msn.com

Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:12 PM

Subject: Blasphemy Laws ib Bible

The Third Book of Moses, Called
Leviticus
24

 

The Tending of the Lamp
Ex. 27.20, 21
1  And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2  Command the children of Israel, that they bring unto thee pure oil olive beaten for the light, to cause the lamps to burn continually.
3  Without the veil of the testimony, in the tabernacle of the congregation, shall Aaron order it from the evening unto the morning before the LORD continually: it shall be a statute for ever in your generations.
4  He shall order the lamps upon the pure candlestick before the LORD continually.
The Showbread
5  ¶ And thou shalt take fine flour, and bake twelve cakes thereof: two tenth deals shall be in one cake.
6  And thou shalt set them in two rows, six on a row, upon the pure table before the LORD. Ex. 25.30
7  And thou shalt put pure frankincense upon each row, that it may be on the bread for a memorial, even an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
8  Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
9  And it shall be Aaron’s and his sons’; Mt. 12.4 · Mk. 2.26 · Lk. 6.4 and they shall eat it in the holy place: for it is most holy unto him of the offerings of the LORD made by fire by a perpetual statute.
The Punishment for Blasphemy
10  ¶ And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish woman and a man of Israel strove together in the camp;
11  and the Israelitish woman’s son blasphemed the name of the LORD, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother’s name was Shelo’mith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:)
12  and they put him in ward, that the mind of the LORD might be showed them.
13  ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
14  Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
15  And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin.
16  And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
17  And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death. Ex. 21.12
18  And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.
19  And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbor; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;
20  breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: Ex. 21.23-25 · Deut. 19.21 · Mt. 5.38 as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.
21  And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death.
22  Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: Num. 15.16 for I am the LORD your God.
23  And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones: and the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses.

 

The Third Book of Moses, Called
Leviticus
24

 

its enough for you…i think….plz read…!

The Punishment for Blasphemy in Bible 
Leviticus: 24
[10] And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish woman and a man of Israel strove together in the camp;
[11] And the Israelitish woman’s son blasphemed the name of the LORD, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother’s name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:)
[12] And they put him in ward, that the mind of the LORD might be shewed them.
[13] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[14] Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
[15] And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin.
[16] And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
[17] And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.
[18] And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.
[19] And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;
[20] Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.
[21] And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death.
[22] Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.
[23] And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones. And the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses.
 

(Zechariah 13:3)
And if anyone again prophesies, his father and mother who bore him will say to him,(A) ‘You shall not live, for you speak lies in the name of the LORD.’ And his father and mother who bore him shall pierce him through when he prophesies.
 
(Luke 12:10 RSV)
 
“And every one who speaks a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.”
 
Mark 3:28-29
“I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”
 
HEB 10:29 
How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
 
Punishment for Drunkard:
DEU 21:20  They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and
rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.”

21  Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge
the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
GAL:5
21  and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did
before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 
Punishment for HOMOSEXUALITY

LEV 18:22  “‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is
detestable.

29  “‘Everyone who does any of these detestable things–such persons must
be cut off from their people.

20:13  “‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them
have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.
 
GEN 3:16  To the woman he said, “I will greatly increase your pains in
childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will
be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

Christchurch, NZ: God finally came, uninvited

In the past, I have heard atheists jeering that a church or cathedral was destroyed in this or that disaster. The implication was that if there really was a God, he would certainly not touch a church.

Back then I bought into the lie, and such devastation of churches was an affirmation of my non-faith.

Now I am a new creature in Christ Jesus and I see things differently.

So it was through spiritual eyes that I watched on TV the images of devastation in Christchurch, New Zealand, in the aftermath of the recent earthquake there.

I knew immediately there was a reason why the Cathedral was one of the only buildings totally destroyed. Yet, it would have been pointless to talk about my suspicions as to why God had allowed it.

But now NZ resident Andrew Strom has revealed the secret. The church that refused to invite God finally got a visit — unexpectedly. And that is our lesson, Friends. God will eventually show up in our lives, like it or not. But only if you ask Him in will He bring a blessing.

Woe unto those who await His unbidden visit.

I don’t know Andrew Strom, but I am grateful to this brother for sharing the following message with the world.

Don Hank

AWFUL SHAKING in CHRISTCHURCH
by Andrew Strom.

It was with terrible sadness that I learned yesterday of another huge earthquake hitting the New Zealand city of Christchurch. It has only been 2 months since we left that city and we have many dear friends there. The first earthquake last year had no fatalities but this one looks to have many dead and injured.

I want to share a few things about our time in Christchurch that left me quite disturbed and concerned when we left. But I want to be sensitive because of the terrible sadness associated with this new quake.

As some of you know, one of the main things that I hoped to do in Christchurch after the first quake was to organize a large open worship event in the city – to praise and glorify God that nobody had been killed even in a huge 7.1 earthquake. I found that no such event was being planned, but there were thousands of evangelical Christians in Christchurch, and I felt very strongly that it was important for us to publicly glorify God for the miracle of surviving such a disaster with no-one killed. The place was traumatized and it was obvious that a sensitive Worship event would do much good – and even many non-Christians would likely attend. But sadly it was not to be. And this is the disturbing part.

I have organized large events before, so the Christian Radio network knows me – and quickly agreed to promote the event for free. The PA sound people also agreed to supply excellent sound for a very low cost. And the Christchurch City Council couldn’t have been more helpful. Everything was looking good. But then we ran up against the Christian leaders.

One of the main “networking” Pentecostal leaders in the city told me that we could count him OUT of any support for the event. Then I spoke personally with the Dean of Christchurch Cathedral who told me that we could NOT use the main Square in Christchurch for a worship event for the whole Body. (Today this man’s Cathedral lies in ruins. It had survived the first quake, but it did not survive this new one).

Read more here

http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/2011/02/17/awful-shaking-in-christchurch-andrew-strom/

Conference Calls for Defense of Family through Film and Culture

Anthony Horvath, a contributor at Laigle’s Forum, is the Executive Director of Athanatos Christian Ministries which in turn is an apologetics organization with a unique bent:  it aims not just to defend the Christian faith through evidence and argumentation, but by influencing the culture through the arts.

Their second annual online apologetics conference has a more narrow emphasis:  a defense of Biblical marriage and the family through film, video, and movies.  After all, the family is constantly being undermined in our movies and sitcoms.  Homosexuality is being normalized right beneath our noses, and with it gay ‘marriage.’  The defense will have to be mounted not just at the political level, though.  We’ll have to fight fire with fire.  And, as it happens, Christians were never supposed to abandon the arts to secularists, anyway.

Please take the time to check out the conference home page:  http://onlineapologeticsconference.com/

Since the conference is held online, you can participate from anywhere around the world.  We look forward to seeing you there.

More info:

Keynote:

(Topics, if listed, are tentative)

  • Gene Edward Veith, Jr. Provost and Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, and columnist for World Magazine.  Website.  Topic:  “Cultural Apologetics.”

Others:


“A picture is worth a thousand words.”  Whether this is good or not, it is the reality.  Today, attitudes and beliefs are often shaped by the things we see and the movies we watch.  For some Christians, this would prompt them to consider withdrawing altogether from our media rich society.  However, movies, music, art, and literature are all expressions of human creativity- and humans, though fallen, still are made in the image of the Creator God.  Our artistic endeavors bear witness to our created nature and therefore have the potential to open eyes, hearts, and mind to the nature of the Creator.

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Telling Muslims what they need to Hear (Koran Burning)

This article was posted several days ago but is being cross posted here.

This thing down in Florida where a pastor of a congregation not much bigger than my thumbnail has threatened to burn korans has reached the heights of absurdity. Pastor Jone’s one long publicity stunt has paid off in spades. It has attracted all kinds of attention. Even Obama has noticed, and given how hard it is for a commoner to attract his eye, that’s really saying something. But maybe not. President Oblivious seems to have a keen eye for potential beer summits or things touching on Islam.

Now, Interpol has announced this warning:

LYON, France – INTERPOL has today issued a global alert to its 188 member countries following the request of Pakistan’s Minister of the Interior, and its own determination, that if the proposed Koran burning by a pastor in the US goes ahead as planned, there is a strong likelihood that violent attacks on innocent people would follow.

Adding to the gravity of the matter, it says,

“September 11 is a day when the world should come together to redouble our efforts to prevent and fight terrorism, not a day when any individual, especially an American, should engage in provocative acts that will give terrorists propaganda intended to convert September 11 from a day of remembrance, to one of recruitment for terrorists and others inspired to attack the US and other western targets,” stressed Secretary General Noble.

Now, as near as I can tell, most Americans think burning the Koran is wrong. There is some wonderment about how there can be no constitutional doubt about the right to build a mosque near the World Trade Center site but no similar proclamation from Mr. Constitution about this man’s right to burn it if he wanted. I read something from Randall Terry about the Old Testament burning of idols but as a friend pointed out, generally it was one’s own idols that were being burnt. Israel was ordered to be pretty hard about idols in its territory, for example, but Israel was not ordered to march on the rest of the world in a purge. You know, like the Muslims think they are supposed to do.

I personally think burning the Koran in this way is wrong for reasons of principle. I am humored, though, that the objections that have been made by our leaders claim also to have principle in mind- the principle of protecting American soldiers and citizens overseas- manage to ignore the elephant in the room. Very simply, if Americans and other ‘innocent people’ are put at risk by Muslims around the world because some dude down in Florida sets fire to a book, there is something seriously unstable about these people. Seriously unstable.

Which leads me back to the Interpol announcement, warning that this ‘provocative act’ will help in the recruitment of terrorists. So let’s get this straight. Some guy in Florida sets fire to a book or two, or two hundred, and some thousands of guys all over the world begin plotting how to blow up disco halls, cafes, trains, etc, and begin sharpening their knives to ensure only the finest beheadings? Do I have that about right?

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Reason or empty chatter: it’s your choice

 by Don Hank

Jesus and Stalin’s Dove” is another English-language debut of a column by Olavo de Carvalho to appear at Laigle’s Forum. It is an article about courageously facing reality in a Christian sense – what that means on a cognitive level and the sacrifices needed to be intellectually honest.

In today’s second column by Mr. de Carvalho “The demolition of conscience,” Mr. de Carvalho discusses “cognitive dissonance,” a recurrent theme of his. The term generally means the uncomfortable entertaining of conflicting ideas simultaneously. However, it goes deeper than that.

In our society, shaped by elitists diametrically opposed to traditional American thought, we see cognitive dissonance manifested as a conflict between what we see and hear (what we actually know) on the one hand and what the elitists – largely through media, “education” and government – impose on us (what we are supposed to “know”).

I witnessed a frightening illustration of cognitive dissonance in my hometown in 2008 and 2009, when record late frosts hit and none of the local papers carried the story either year. Obviously, this actual hard, cold fact would have conflicted with the theory of global warming and that was too risqué for the media. But even townspeople I met and spoke with as the frost still lay on the ground were strangely mum when I mentioned that in my 60+ years of life, I had never seen a frost this late in the year. They knew it was true – undeniably so — on the experiential level, but on a social level, they knew that to acknowledge this truth would be improper, even to the point of blasphemy. Gradually, over the years, they had been successfully programmed like Pavlov’s dogs, and I made them uncomfortable – even scared — just mentioning it. Some were willing to discuss it, but others looked and acted guilty, as if the acknowledgement of what we all could see with our own eyes was a shameful sin. In fact it was a sin — a sin against the leftwing establishment that needed the myth of global warming for its agenda: cap-and-trade, carbon credits, tougher emissions limits, etc.

You see, it is no exaggeration to say that Western society is mentally ill, suffering from a virulent kind of neurosis that is refractory to treatment. We need large, frequent doses of therapy. Not psychological, but philosophical therapy.

Olavo de Carvalho’s writings are all, in one way or another, valuable therapy sessions. Each one undoes a little bit of our distorted preconceptions, like untying a convoluted knot.

Over the years in which I have had the unique privilege of reading, translating and performing translation reviews of his writings, Olavo de Carvalho has gradually convinced me that the study of philosophy – a tool for analyzing thought – is by no means just a luxury item. It is in fact the key to the cage in which our minds are confined by our keepers.

Without this intellectual tool, while most of us can make noises — ranging from incoherent to vaguely cogent – in order to generally express anger, pain, frustration and anguish, and while some observers can even manage to sound authoritative at times, we can’t hope to fully articulate what it is we believe, what we desire, what we should love and what we should hate, who are our friends and who are our enemies, and what sacrifices must be made to preserve our American way of life for our children. We speak of peace when we mean war, of war when we mean peace. Of morality when we mean evil, and so on. We’ve been seduced by the “chatter,” to use de Carvalho’s word for it.

This lack of thinking skills to know with certainty, and of language skills to articulate with unfaltering conviction, what we want and why is at the heart of our malaise and of the destructive infighting among conservative Americans. And it’s the reason so few pundits today can define America’s goals well enough to steer us away from the perilous shoals.