Christianity and Libertarianism and the Consent of the Governed

July 29th, 2011 Anthony Horvath Posted in abortion, Christian, Conservatism, Culture, Culture Wars, Economics, Freedom, Gay agenda, Global governance, Libertarians, Politics, Socialism, The Left 9 Comments »

Originally Posted here by Laigle’s contributor Anthony Horvath


“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed Declaration of Independence


The last few months I’ve seen some strident statements of opposition against libertarians by conservatives. I’m on several email lists where I’m seeing such commentary and of course its on the web, as in this example. I personally didn’t detect a huge uptick in libertarian sentiment, but alright. I describe myself as a ‘constitutional libertarian’ and in explaining why I hope that I can shed light on what I believe are the true reasons for a rise in libertarianism- among Christians in particular. I can’t speak for them all, of course, but I think I recognize in some of their commentary some of my own thinking.

So, to begin with, let me make two important observations. First of all, when one thinks ‘libertarian’ one might immediately think licentious. However, the two are not identical terms. This leads to the second observation, the direction by which one arrives at libertarianism greatly impacts the flavor of that libertarianism. There can be no question that there are a great mass of individuals, who calling themselves libertarians, really are just people who wish to engage in whatever depravity that they want, with no one to tell them otherwise or worse- stop them. By my observation, the people coming from this direction are really your typical atheist secular humanist progressive who is perfectly happy to foist as much government as people can bear onto themselves and others- in the form of nationalized health care, eg- just so long as they can have sex with whatever and whomever they want and smoke whatever happens to come across their path.

However, someone coming at ‘libertarianism’ from the other direction, say, from a Christian perspective and a conservative, is not looking for a reason to misbehave. This is why I led off with the John Adams quote. ‘Moral and religious people’ will continue to be ‘moral and religious’ whatever freedoms or restrictions are placed on them by the government. I might say: “Libertarianism was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the [government] of any other.” There are any number of forms of government that can work with a ‘moral and religious people.’ For an amoral or immoral or anti-moral or non-religious or anti-religious people, no kind of government is going to work for the long haul. Read the rest of this entry »

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Ann Barnhardt skewers Mitt

June 3rd, 2011 LAIGLESFORUM Posted in elections, Politics, Socialism 2 Comments »

Ann Barnhardt skewers Mitt

 

The below-linked video did my soul good. I hope it will benefit you likewise.

When it comes to that old “lesser of 2 evils” thing, I always keep 2 things in mind: RINOs are out to destroy America by stealth. Democrats are out to destroy America straightforwardly.

The RINOs and false conservatives will take her down with the approval of weak-minded conservatives.

The Democrats will encounter more resistance from all conservatives — just as Obama is encountering resistance today for doing the same things Bush did with “conservative” approval in his day.

Therefore, the RINO is the more dangerous of the 2 enemies, because he is wearing camouflage and won’t be spotted as the enemy until it is too late.

Hence my motto is as follows:

If America is to be destroyed, better it be destroyed by someone I didn’t vote for.

Don Hank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBXe3Kvg-qU&feature=player_embedded

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Will Muslim Africa join the EU?

May 5th, 2011 LAIGLESFORUM Posted in Christian, Egypt, european union, Global governance, Socialism 3 Comments »

Millions of Muslims  live in Europe but refuse to integrate. The EU wants even more. And now, Muslims countries to join the EU?

by Don Hank

There has been much speculation as to the reasons for the US and NATO interfering in the internal affairs of Libya, the US and the rest of the West interfering in Egypt, the UN taking sides in an election dispute in the Ivory Coast and using deadly force to install the Muslim candidate, while doing nothing to stop the slaughter of 1,000 Christians, etc.

There is the old knee-jerk accusation that it is all about oil. Yet Egypt has almost no oil. Neither does the Ivory Coast.

Remember that the EU has been importing Muslims into Europe at the rate of almost a million a year and a realistic estimate forecasts a Muslim majority in about 15-25 years in that continent.

Also recall that the Fabian Society (of which Bush pal Tony Blair is a member) was founded in the 1880s for the purpose of spreading socialism worldwide, and one of their immediate goals was to eliminate Christianity. Now do you suppose engineering a Muslim majority may help achieve that goal?

Also recall that every major conflict in the Middle East since the Iraq invasion has resulted in the murder, exile and/or persecution of indigenous Christian populations that were protected until the West got involved!

This is all circumstantial evidence, you say.

But for many years, an expansion of the EU into Africa has been in the works, and now a high-ranking EU official is recommending “deep and broad” integration with Africa, ostensibly to expand the EU “market.” This means, long-term, that African nations are now to be integrated into the EU. Which in turn means that eventually the Schengen agreement (open borders) would be extended to Islamic Africa.

Remember that the EU started out as an innocent little agreement (the EEC, European Economic Community – with the emphasis ostensibly on the market), then morphed into the EC (European Community — note that “economic” is no longer the focus, not even part of the name), and now is a supranational government whose top ranking officers (the European Commission) are not even elected. We used to call that kind of arrangement a dictatorship. We also used to call the kind of wealth redistribution policies this government practices communism.

My, how times have changed. Good thing communism is “dead.”

The EU’s William Hague wants to “broaden and deepen” ties with N. Africa:

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2011/05/william-hague-argues-for-broad-and-deep-economic-integration-between-the-middle-east-and-the-eu.html

Sarkozy has wanted Mediterranean Union:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/world/europe/10iht-france.4.5656114.html

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A time of absolute evil

April 20th, 2011 LAIGLESFORUM Posted in Britain, Censorship, dhimmitude, european union, Global governance, Political Correctness, Socialism 6 Comments »

A Time Of Absolute Evil

Guy Leven-Torres

20th April 2011

I detest and despise the ‘Left’. The word for ‘Left’ in Latin is Sinistro. The Romans made no bones about it, the Left was the side of evil, bad luck and ill omen. The left side of the legionary was the shield arm, tasked with protecting the body from harm, while his right held the sturdy gladius. Right was the strong- good side. Our word sinister also comes from the Latin sinistro.

I have been fighting the ‘Left’ since my youth, ever since I saw them in Grosvenor Square as they tried to break in and destroy the American Embassy in the Summer of ’68. I was barely 15 years old, yet that experience was to stay with me for the rest of my life. I had never seen or experienced such violence and insane, pathological hatred. It was the time of the Czech attempt to cast off the Soviet occupier. As President Dubczek tried to negotiate, the Russian tanks moved in. Hundreds died, probably thousands. The creatures that rioted in London that Summer tried to impose the Soviet system upon us as the brave Czechs tried to expel them. I also noticed a ‘quality’ the rioters seemed to possess- a type glazed look in their eyes and speech that seemed to come from elsewhere, not the body or person itself- almost as if the body had been taken over by some outside force. I have noted this ‘quality’ in most, if not all Leftists I have worked with. Most are angry, very angry people but it is not anger at the state of the world, or some injustice and the desire to do good on behalf of another less fortunate being but about themselves. The only other place I observed this phenomena was in an institution I was assigned to in 1990 after a breakdown, when my business collapsed. The majority of patients were involved in academics or some other related field. I recovered- most of them apparently were regular patients.

The anger I perceived was due to an over keen sense of personal entitlement, in that the world was ignoring them and that it had no right to but also, most importantly they had been made to suffer through being ignored and that the world, had no right to do this. They and their desires came before everyone and everything else. The world had no right to ignore them whatsoever. Also plainly clear, was their desire for personal revenge, against a world they thought owed them everything, including a living and they were none too particular how they achieved it. I came to know many ‘Leftists’ and I met not one, who had not suffered during their upbringing from some form of abuse or other, ranging from dysfunctional family backgrounds, as in incest, paedophilia, alcoholism, drug dependency, physical abuse, adultery and divorce or simply a warped sense of self -importance, whether or not it was to compensate for the lack of warmth and love in their families.

Most of them went on to suffer major trauma themselves in their adult lives and spreading their chaos to the rest of more balanced society. I can declare in quite objective terms, that I do regard Leftist ‘politics’ the haven of mentally defective, often severely immature (arrested development), amoral, socio-psychopathic individuals and my findings are supported, by official studies into so called ‘Liberal’ politics by famous and respected US and Canadian psychologists. Look at any Leftwing political type today, delve into their family background and one will find the usual litany of abusive relations and dysfunctions. In short we are dealing with thousands of assorted psychiatric cases. Many are in and out of lunatic asylums, suffer from sexual deviation, fear of women and family and chronic incurable psychosis. This is why our society in the West on both sides of the Atlantic resembles an asylum. They also have a pathological fear moral authority, especially Christianity unless it is their own amoral version.

In order to achieve their desire for absolute power, they will coalesce into like-minded groups of similar misfits, usually with an overall-overarching political creed or ethos that saves them from having to think original thoughts and feelings of chronic insecurity and worthlessness. A strong political ideology is therefore very attractive to them. Whether it be Marx, Islam or Hitler, it supplies the missing ‘moral’ framework in their lives. Also of great importance, is the ‘grouping’ of like minded dysfunctional individuals. They are usually dominated by A type, charismatic individuals, both male and female, in a kind of vampiric relationship, in which the dominant Alphas feed off the chronic insecurities of the Beta personalities within the group hierarchy. The group becomes all important, in order for mutual support of dysfunctional, often immoral-amoral thinking, activities and intentions. The group or ‘hive’ acts as a safe house of delusion, governed by the super glue of political ideology, usually Socialism and so called revolutionary ideas. Most of this ideology is inhuman, incredibly destructive of both wider society it infects and the individual that succumbs to its siren call.

A woman I know, now in her sixties and a confirmed Leftist all her life, who used to work as a senior librarian in a University I attended, suffers appallingly from personal guilt, loneliness, rejection and almost total inability to form lasting friendships. Her father was a practising homosexual and Professor and she took this as a rejection of her. She has spent many years trying to ‘find herself’ and is in and out of mental institutions. She is not alone. Try to discuss logically, matters like ‘climate change’ and one is immediately and viciously attacked with an armed verbal assault about whom she knows, who told her, ‘they are never wrong!’ etc, etc. The expert ‘opinion’ she often quotes, is not only nothing to do with scientific opinion but have no academic background in the subject whatsoever. Her reasoning went as far to justify their conclusions and expertise in the fact they read the Guardian, the well known leftist journal of all leftist journals. She also quoted the BBC as an ‘informed source’. This is ‘group think’ in practice or ‘They say it, so it must be so, because that is how we want it to be!’ This is incredibly childish.

Today we face the advent of Eurabia. I maintain that the ongoing actions and disturbance across the Moslem world, is the work of EU bureaucrats, intent on recreating a neo- colonial empire stretching from John O’Groats to the Persian Gulf. I last posted an article detailing its rapidly increasing consolidation, the effects of which can be glimpsed with deliberately allowed. or created mass immigration by thousands of males across the Mediterranean into Italy, Spain, Greece, Cyprus and the new open border policies of the Turkish Government, paid and encouraged by its EU paymasters, as prior condition to its formal acceptance into the EU. The Open Borders policy is the final preparatory step for the creation of the Euro-Med Union. Syria, Iraq, Jordan now enjoy open access and travel to Europe without visas via Turkey. Europe is also being deliberately and systematically Islamified with de facto sharia law, already in place to forbid all dissent on pain of arrest and imprisonment, and all criticism of Islam forbidden. In every country affected by Islamic migration, the UK, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, especially Sweden but also Germany, Moslems enjoy protected status and Islam will become the European religion, short of a miracle. Christians in the UK have increasingly been, persecuted, prosecuted, imprisoned, physically beaten, sacked from their jobs simply for speaking out or displaying their faith. I too have taken considerable abuse and threat to my personal freedom.

Moslems on the other hand are allowed to wear their religious clothing, spout hatred and violence and demand and given sharia law, in direct contradiction to traditional Christianity, which is now a fringe religion. Sharia law now rules most Islamic ghettos in the UK and Europe. I was recently informed by a British police officer, that ‘You are not allowed to criticise Islam! It is regarded as religious hatred and race abuse!’ I challenged him and asked him why he and his colleagues obeyed such injunctions? ‘Were they not ashamed of themselves?’ I continued. His reply was ‘It is the Law!’ I replied, ‘Not as far as I am concerned it isn’t! I used to be a lawyer myself! Can you show me the laws that apply?’ He accused me over the phone of ‘getting close to hate speech!’ This is the UK today and much of Europe. Every organ of state, every institution, and any and every official high and low, is subject to group enforced, inhuman ‘diversity’ training. Individuals are bullied into becoming self-censoring Leftist clones. The whole EU apparatus operates the same way through the tyranny of group reinforced, programmed diversity brainwashing dialectic. And this should come as no surprise, as the elite is the same as those I encountered in Grosvenor Square in 1968. They run the EU today and the White House in Washington and every government in Europe. They are creating a Global Soviet using sharia to halt dissent, and importing millions of Moslems to dilute and destroy the nations of the West but also, to eventually replace whole European populations. This is genocide plain and simple. I know this to be so because I have been told to my face by Leftwing activists. It is why I write today. The elite want you and I to simply die away. We are regarded as having failed in our revolutionary duty in the 1960s to 1980s. Therefore we must be destroyed or rather discarded as lumpenproletarii, to be replaced by better suited peoples to impose the Global Socialist Paradise of which mass migration and Islamism, is the latest favoured client weapon of choice. Islamism and Islamists, now dominates the disgusting psychopathic Unite Against Fascism and increasingly, New Labour and Tory parties in what was once Great Britain.

The Left feel there is nothing immoral or wrong with Islamifying Europe under sharia law. Both totalitarian ideologies rely on mass terror, both psychological and physical violence in nature, both employ thuggish Thought Police, both are violently anti- women, anti- Christian, pro- homosexual, even if it is a hidden facet of Islam but also, why they hate women and the family so much but above everything, they hate the West and its superior civilisation. Both Islamists and Leftists are psychopaths with megalomaniac dreams of conquest. Both are simply evil. I have seen and heard Leftists boast about how they will use ‘each and every means to destroy the West’. I have no reason to doubt them. Likewise many Moslems, through years of interbreeding, suffer like the Left, socio-pathic tendencies, irrational thought, illogical pathological hatred of anything decent, lower than average IQ quotients and endemic medically certifiable lunacy. This is no secret by the way. The Ptolemies of Egypt also suffered genetic weaknesses, ranging from still births, haemophilia, and other abnormalities, including amorality and murderous dispositions, that shocked the staid Romans of the day. Congenital idiocy and abnormalities are also common among many of Europe’s aristocracy too. Interbreeding, or incest is also rampant with Britain’s Socialist elite too, if reports in the UK’s papers are to be believed.

In summary we are run by people who are patently, quite certifiably insane!

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Does Obama want you dead?

April 18th, 2011 LAIGLESFORUM Posted in Government, Socialism, The Left 4 Comments »

Think long and hard about the answer to that question. There’s evidence that he does.

by Don Hank

An interview with Larry Grathwohl, a former member of the Weather Underground, reports on a meeting with these his former associates. The group leaders discussed plans to set up re-education camps (concentration camps) in the South once they had taken over the US. When then-member Grathwohl asked what would be done with the approximately 25 million who could not be re-educated, the leaders responded “they would have to be eliminated.”

 “Meaning killed,” clarifies Larry.

Does Obama disagree with any of the dangerous, insane ideas brought to light in the below-linked video? He is close pals with William Ayers of the Weather Underground, who was involved in a bomb plot that killed people. Following his outrageous, politically motivated acquittal, Ayers said he only wished he could have killed more. Does Obama disagree? Really? It’s a vital question and no one is sure of the answer.

Consider this irony: William Ayers and wife Bernardine Dohrn went to Egypt prior to the revolt that toppled Mubarak. They are believed to have had a hand in fomenting the revolution. After all, when 2 known friends of the president of the US say to a group of militants “the President will support you,” that carries a lot of clout. Now, to reiterate: William Ayers was one of the Weather Underground leaders who agreed that 25 million Americans would have to be killed if his group took over the US.

Yet, his close friend and ally Barack Obama said in his propaganda effort to support the Middle Eastern uprisings, that our intervention was humanitarian and that the dictators there (Mubarak, Ghadaffi) are killing citizens.

So, Barack Obama, who supports the homicidally minded Ayers, is trying to make us believe he cares about human life in Africa?

Do you believe him?

Brainwashed Americans simply don’t understand the far left. 

We witnessed the fall of the Soviet Union, which killed around 20 million there . We watched passively as Mao killed an estimated 70 million in China. Facts incredibly well guarded in America

Yet today, only a few decades later, by electing a president whose ideology is very much in line with the Soviets’ and the Chinese communists’, we are flirting with something possibly more deadly still than the ideologies of Stalin and Mao, who killed a total of up to 90 million between them. Let that sink in.

America has suffered a potentially deadly dumbing-down at the hands of the Democrats, the RINOs, the false conservatives, the controlled opposition (including many clergy) and the useful idiots.

The rest? We’re only a handful.

Say, 25 million or so.

Larry Grathwohl’s testimony on the Weather Underground:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

Wikileaks: US secretly backed Syrian uprising:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-secretly-backed-syrian-opposition-groups-cables-released-by-wikileaks-show/2011/04/14/AF1p9hwD_story.html?nl_headlines

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