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¹⁶And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

 ¹⁷And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 13:15-17

Paypal has refused service to Christian activists who outspokenly defend traditional marriage or mention that the Apostle Paul opposed homosexual behavior. They are trying to make it appear that being a traditional Christian is something reprehensible or dirty:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=346825

In so doing, Paypal has accepted responsibility for the content of web sites and products paid for through its services. That could come back to bite the agency in the butt because if it admits that it screens clients’ site content, then how does it explain that it has cheerfully served child porn sites?

If this is true, Paypal may have been an accomplice to criminal activity that could land a few of their execs in the slammer.

Here is a report showing that Paypal has enabled people to buy child porn with its service:

http://politisite.com/2010/07/23/pentagon-workers-purchased-child-porn-via-paypal/

PENTAGON WORKERS PURCHASED CHILD PORN VIA PAYPAL

WASHINGTON – Federal investigators have identified several dozen Pentagon officials and contractors with high-level security clearances who allegedly purchased and downloaded child pornography, including an undisclosed number who used their government computers to obtain the illegal material according to investigative reports.

Further, if you do a search with the search terms

drug paraphernalia paypal

you will also find some offshore sites that allow customers to use Paypal to buy illegal drugs and paraphernalia.

Paypal has made a pretense of having halted this service, but there are offshore sellers claiming that you can still use Paypal to buy the paraphernalia and small amounts of drug. See for yourself:

420 Distributors Marijuana Pipes and Online Paraphernalia

www.420distributors.com/ – CachedSimilar- Block all www.420distributors.com results

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Buy whatever you like to smoke and you’ll discover beautiful marijuana pipes. … Buy Marijuana Pipes and Online Paraphernalia … by secure credit cards, accepted by bank transfers, Paypal payments, cash/cheques and worldwide delivery.

…

Now the hypocrites are pretending to be worried that some customers might be tainted with the pernicious idea that marriage is between a man and a woman, pretending such a viewpoint is in itself dangerous, but they themselves have no qualms about drug dealers and child porn sellers using their services!

You can contact Paypal at

apacdd@paypal.com

or call them at: 1-402-935-2050 (USA)

Remind Paypal that they agreed not to discriminate against people for their views. Tell them to keep their word and stop the persecution of Christian ministries.

The fact is, if Paypal doesn’t knock off this dangerous game soon, there are Christian lawyers who will gladly seek to have Paypal executives arrested for promoting child porn. Even if they have stopped, those executives knew they were aiding and abetting criminals and can still be prosecuted for what they did.

Obviously, Paypal does not believe in the God of the Bible and thinks they are God. But God is used to dealing with people like that.

Please take the time to pray and thank God for allowing WorldNetDaily to report on this injustice. Pray that God will protect Julio and his family no matter what the enemies of God try to do to him.

Sign the petition to PayPal to protest against persecution of Pro-Family Christians:

http://profamilyfreedom.net/

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Obama’s Libya:

I don’t mind one bit saying “I told you so” to all those — particularly journalists – who ignored my objective, fact-supported arguments against Western military and foreign policy in the Middle East and wound up with egg on their face as a result. (I have been trying to revive the nearly-lost scientific method and apply it to journalism, which has become nothing but a series of propaganda mills. So far, there seem to be no takers).

Obama and NATO must bear the responsibility for the fall of Kaddafi, and I have warned that this fall of a stable secular Middle Eastern leader will come back to bite the West hard in the butt.

Now Fox News and others are finally cautiously discussing the fact that the rebels are an unknown quantity and may not be as benign as they were portrayed back when they seemed to have much less chance of winning. Last night it was pointed out by Sean Hannity and Oliver North that they are a mix of tribal representatives and terrorists and their new proposed constitution already calls for sharia law, in stark contrast to Kadaffi’s secular constitution (miss him yet?).

Most telling was the remark: “Obama owns Libya.”

In case you have forgotten our direct military involvement in Libya, in addition to Obama’s repeated calls for Kadaffi (sp Gadhaffi in the linked article) to step down, here is the report on the joint French-American Operation Odyssey Dawn the day after it happened:

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/news/x617854948/France-U-S-bomb-Libyan-positions

 Back in March, I found no mainstream commentators on the left or right criticizing the West’s role in this operation or in Egypt. In fact, there has been a steady stream of “conservative” criticism against Obama for not going after Kadaffi more resolutely. (The clueless candidates — most recently Bachmann — mostly followed their clueless lead, bleating similar statements). Generally, there is a dearth of substantive criticism of any Western military involvement by left or right, no doubt for political or career reasons (many fear appearing unpatriotic, even though honest and objective commentary would ultimately save Western lives and Western embarrassment), but also due to a serious shortage of brain power. Now that a Marxist is in the White House, mainstream conservatives are finally criticizing our involvement in a Middle East conflict, but mainly because they can pin the fallout on the Left. But none of them mentioned that the regimes in post-Carter Iran, post-Clinton Kosovo, post-Bush Iraq, post-rebellion Egypt and the Ivory Coast, once ruled by secularists, are now in the hands of democratically elected Islamist leaders or mobs who openly persecute and murder Christians wholesale  (see, for example, the 4th link below on the Ivory Coast massacre of Christians presided over by the UN) and do not believe in Israel’s right to exist. (A nation that allows Muslims to live within its boundaries, whereas Muslim nations typically forbid Israelis — or often any Jews — even to visit. How fair and democratic is that?).

By contrast, I (who have nothing to lose, am not being paid for this and answer to no one) was warning repeatedly about the error in our involvement in the Middle East, not just by Democrat presidents, notably Obama, but also by Republicans (BTW, Reagan, who pulled us out of Lebanon, was an exception), and pointing out then-unheeded facts to state my case, reminding, for example, that the local Christian populations were always the ones who paid the biggest price when a stable secular leader was replaced by a mob, which eventually, inevitably, turned into an Islamic-led government with significantly less freedom for the people than under the “cruel dictators” we replaced – as well as vastly less diversity, which, oddly, Western powers prize in their countries. Israel, of course, came closer to the brink of war with each successive “win” and Iran was given a permanent pass by the West, as though these merciless enforcers of brutal Sharia law, who execute countless people for sexual misdeeds and inappropriate clothing, were lily-white defenders of human rights (as we speak, there are 2 Americans jailed in Iran for “spying,” on flimsy evidence). I sent links to each of my articles on this subject to thousands of potential readers, including major news outlets, inclucing to all Fox News personalities. News people typically do not respond, but judging by last night’s commentary by Sean, perhaps they had read some of what I said here:

http://laiglesforum.com/my-government-is-killing-me/2159.htm

here

http://laiglesforum.com/spare-me-the-crocodile-tears-when-northern-africa-explodes/2215.htm

here

http://laiglesforum.com/how-western-powers-abet-christian-persecution/2513.htm

here

http://laiglesforum.com/us-media-cover-up-ivory-coast-massacre-details/2398.htm

here

http://laiglesforum.com/why-i-am-not-on-our-side-any-more/2174.htm

here

http://laiglesforum.com/the-far-left-connection-to-the-near-east-rebellion/2224.htm

and here

http://laiglesforum.com/2286/2286.htm

Olavo de Carvalho also warned you here:

http://laiglesforum.com/strengthening-the-enemies/2126.htm

Look, I don’t mind people calling me crazy. But you journalists who lead the Western world by providing information to decision makers, should know by now that, in the long run, ignoring warnings about the West’s disastrous involvement in the Middle East is going to hurt you a whole lot more than it does the warning party.

Don Hank

…And if you can’t help, then please pray for the safety of Julio and his family.

Don Hank

I had reported previously on Julio Severo, a man of God who almost single-handedly stopped the passage of a legislative bill in Brazil that would have effectively prohibited pastors, or anyone, from preaching the biblical view on homosexuality (for example, as expressed in Romans 1:25-28). Like Herod’s government or the Roman Empire, open persecution and imprisonment of Christians would have been mandated by law.

Julio recently reported to WorldNetDaily that a Brazilian pastor who led a criminal to the Lord and prompted him to give himself up to the police was subsequently arrested for interfering with the traditional religion of voodooism.

In March of 2009, Julio himself was forced to leave his native Brazil because he had opposed the sacred cow of the far left government – homosexualism. Not because of any government ban, but because homosexual activists had threatened to kill and harm him and his family  — just as they have done elsewhere.

Back in 1995, Julio planted a church in Brazil. A year later, Julio, who could not be silent on sin, left the church he had planted for the denomination Heal our Land Evangelical Fellowship, when the church fathers decided to support far left pro-homosexual candidate Lula da Silva, who later became president thanks in large part to the efforts of shameful “Christians” like them.

In Julio’s own words:

In 2002, as a leader of the church I had planted for them, by the authorization of the denomination’s headquarters, all churches of this denomination were sent packets with THOUSANDS of tracts with an evangelical message from evangelical leaders supporting the election of Lula as president. I burned the packet that my local church received.

Also, Bishop Robson Rodovalho, the president of Heal Our Land Evangelical Fellowship, officially supported the election of Lula.

Mainstream churches in the US and Europe are no better than they.  It is nothing less than surrealistic. “Pastors” are no longer content just to be apostate. They now see fit to promote leftwing agendas like open borders and amnesty for lawbreakers, socialism, anti-Israel boycotts, rapprochement with Islam or homosexuality, even ordaining openly homosexual “pastors” or “bishops” and performing same sex marriages.

Jesus knew this was coming when He said:

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” (Mt. 7:15).

So did Paul:

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And do not marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light” (2 Cor. 11:13-14).

and Peter:

“But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways” (2 Peter 2:1,2).

Sadly, the most unusual kind of pastor we can encounter in today’s church is a solid biblical Christian who refuses to compromise on any of the principles taught by Christ and the early saints. And yet, the Bible clearly states that these traditional principles are an unalienable part of our faith:

Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 2 Thessalonians 2:15

Which brings me to the purpose of today’s message. Just a few days ago, a Christian brother and friend of Julio’s emailed me and told me Julio is again forced to pull up stakes and leave the country that had provided temporary asylum for him. As in most Western countries, there is simply no room at the inn there for Christians who refuse to compromise with sin. To make matters worse, not much safety is promised in the new refuge either, due to cartel activity, and there is no promise of permanent residence status. This brother therefore prevailed upon me to exhort my readers to help Julio as they see fit and as they can afford by going to his site Last Days Watchman Blogspot (http://lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com/) and clicking on the Donate button.

I think you can see that a life may depend on you.

Yet, despite his apparently desperate situation, Julio wrote in his last email that God has chosen to send him to this new refuge and he is going on faith.

God grant me such faith.

Finally, besides financial support, if you or someone known to you has a possibility of securing asylum for Julio in the US or Canada, please let us know. And if you can’t help in any other way, pray for the safety of Julio and his family as they undertake this new voyage into the unknown.

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:40.

Julio’s site Last Day’s Watchman Blogspot:

http://lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com/

Originally Posted here by Laigle’s contributor Anthony Horvath

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed Declaration of Independence

The last few months I’ve seen some strident statements of opposition against libertarians by conservatives. I’m on several email lists where I’m seeing such commentary and of course its on the web, as in this example. I personally didn’t detect a huge uptick in libertarian sentiment, but alright. I describe myself as a ‘constitutional libertarian’ and in explaining why I hope that I can shed light on what I believe are the true reasons for a rise in libertarianism- among Christians in particular. I can’t speak for them all, of course, but I think I recognize in some of their commentary some of my own thinking.

So, to begin with, let me make two important observations. First of all, when one thinks ‘libertarian’ one might immediately think licentious. However, the two are not identical terms. This leads to the second observation, the direction by which one arrives at libertarianism greatly impacts the flavor of that libertarianism. There can be no question that there are a great mass of individuals, who calling themselves libertarians, really are just people who wish to engage in whatever depravity that they want, with no one to tell them otherwise or worse- stop them. By my observation, the people coming from this direction are really your typical atheist secular humanist progressive who is perfectly happy to foist as much government as people can bear onto themselves and others- in the form of nationalized health care, eg- just so long as they can have sex with whatever and whomever they want and smoke whatever happens to come across their path.

However, someone coming at ‘libertarianism’ from the other direction, say, from a Christian perspective and a conservative, is not looking for a reason to misbehave. This is why I led off with the John Adams quote. ‘Moral and religious people’ will continue to be ‘moral and religious’ whatever freedoms or restrictions are placed on them by the government. I might say: “Libertarianism was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the [government] of any other.” There are any number of forms of government that can work with a ‘moral and religious people.’ For an amoral or immoral or anti-moral or non-religious or anti-religious people, no kind of government is going to work for the long haul. Read the rest of this entry »

by Don Hank

Psalm 86:15, NIV. “But you, O Lord, are a compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness.”

I have often gotten weary of waiting for good things to happen, wondering what was taking God so long to act.

Like back in 2006, when in my article titled “Gay agenda, you’re going down,” I introduced the idea that homosexuals who had been induced to pursue the “gay” lifestyle and became sick as a result, should sue the groups that promoted the lifestyle.

Comparing smoking with homosexual practice, I had written on March 5, 2006

Now “alternative” sexual lifestyles are all the rage. They too are killing people. And again, it’s the “intellectual” cool, liberal, worldly, suave thing to do. The usual suspects are involved. All the big name colleges have special programs for promoting “alternative” sex. Businesses promote the Gay Olympics. Politicians like Barney Frank think they can foist alternative sex on people through their power positions. Hollywood uses its influence to turn the Marlboro Man into a spokesman for today’s popular deadly activity. It’s just like the bad old days of Big Tobacco, and the Grim Reaper is having a gay old time (pun intended).

World Net Daily linked to this article and I got several thousand hits the first day it ran. Emails poured in from all over the world, some from “gays.” Many were enthusiastic about my idea. Some, of course, were skeptical, and some were irate, but I remember one from a young homosexual who said “you have given this 20 year old something to think about.” I was deeply touched.

Yet it seemed as if my idea was going nowhere. No activist group seemed to have picked it up and run with it.

May 16 of this year, I wrote on diseases incurred by homosexual behavior. Again, hoping to stir some discussion and spur someone, anyone, into action, I pointed out the disparity between the way smoking and homosexual sex are treated in our politically correct environment, and how “progressives” generally accuse people who want to keep homosexuals safe of being “homophobes” while praising those who celebrate a patently dangerous, irresponsible lifestyle. I wrote:

Why do professionals march in lock step to oppose people with one kind of unhealthy lifestyle (smokers) while endorsing another group with another unhealthy lifestyle (practicing homosexuals).

Since then, an article published in World Net Daily gave me hope that this idea will some day be brought to fruition.

On Saturday, June 11, World Net Daily published an article titled “What if some other behavior cost 25 million lives?”

It was about Peter LaBarbera’s latest campaign urging the government to investigate homosexual behavior in the same way as smoking was once investigated prior to the banning of smoking in public establishments. This campaign was new to me.

On his website, LaBarbera, President of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality, takes off on my idea, explaining that homosexual behavior is like the behavior of smoking, which the U.S. government investigated and addressed directly by requiring warnings and other limits and by suing tobacco companies.
LaBarbera is an effective activist and if his campaign to force government to investigate the link between homosex and disease is effective, ironically, it will benefit particularly the community that has fought it the most vigorously.

Once that link is established officially, I would urge LaBarbera’s group to push hard for lawsuits against groups that promoted homosexual behavior – on behalf of homosexuals who suffered the most from this irresponsible promotion of a lethal and morbid habit.

As I wrote in 2006:

Once enough of the victims have seen how they have been duped by the universities, politicians, the media, business (deep pockets), Hollywood, politicians, and, yes, the gay agenda itself, to throw away their health and life expectancy, they will come out swinging, marching boldly behind their lawyers.

My idea in March 2006: class action lawsuits against “gay” activists

http://laiglesforum.com/gay-agenda-youre-going-down-2/5.htm

My recent article on diseases linked to homosexual behavior:

http://laiglesforum.com/the-recompense-of-their-error/2509.htm

WND article on the AFTAH campaign:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=300089

Web site of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality:

http://americansfortruth.com/