A true conservative candidate vs. a libertarian/ Part II

 

by Don Hank

 

Does Ron Paul understand cultural Marxism?

Ron Paul’s scoffing attitude toward those of us who care about culture makes me wonder whether his administration would cater to the cultural Marxists.

America has been victimized by cultural Marxism for decades. First it was the feminazis, who ushered in the “woman’s right” to kill her unborn and discredited fatherhood, influencing the courts to separate men from their children, effectively separating families under welfare rules, and generally declaring men evil abusers.

Now it is the homosexual activists (not gays as a group) who are organizing to discredit  candidates who oppose gay marriage. Ron is unfairly benefitting from this radical movement to gain ground with the gay agenda. It is cowardly and does him no credit.

And it is illegal aliens who are now demanding special rights, even as border guards sit in jail for essentially doing their jobs. The administration has contrived to make it look like it is protecting our borders, but that is a lie. They are in fact arresting and deporting fewer of them.

Paul’s position on illegal immigration? A true Von Mises libertarian, Ron Paul has never been strong on the border and illegal immigration. In fact, NumbersUSA has given him an F on immigration. A very big red flag.

 

Is there anyone left?

Who has the best grade NumbersUSA grade on immigration?

Why that would be Michele Bachmann. And just what if people could be focused on illegal immigration again, and made to understand that it is costing jobs? Wouldn’t that help her poll numbers? Of course, the GOP would have to stop catering to lawbreakers.

Further, regarding cultural Marxism (of which illegal immigration is a facet), Michele Bachmann is one of the few people in politics who understand what 100% of politicians should understand about cultural Marxism. For example, she recently set a feminazi straight on the Kinsey myths, ie, who Kinsey was, and what his agenda was. She probably could also have shown why he should have gone to jail instead of being hailed as a great researcher.

Anyone who still believes the Kinsey myths needs to check out the work of Dr. Judith Reisman at:

http://drjudithreisman.org/

I doubt any of the other candidates have a clue about this, and other, cultural Marxism issues.

 

But can Bachmann win against Obama?

The GOP wants you to think she can’t and that only a leftwinger who is ideologically indistinguishable from Obama can beat Obama. So why not just clone Obama, give him another name (would that be a third?), and run him?

But they are forgetting a few things.

Here is what one poster commented on a blog regarding a recent PA poll:

And now for a little course in Political Science 101: This poll is not of ‘likely’ voters. It included a sample of 500 Pennsylvanians. It was done by PPP which is a democratic polling group. It is notoriously flawed because in past polls PPP has been poorly predictive when identifying Republicans and Republican leaning Independents for the sample. It is also flawed because of its proximity to the general election in November of 2012. Polls taken long before elections are inherently non-predictive of the actual election results.

Added to this is that fact that the poll didn’t even include Bachmann, although she was not trailing Santorum by much, and he was included. It also doesn’t show the fallout of another 6 months of further job losses and other Obama incompetency that  may well make him unable to beat a warm body. Finally, let’s admit that Ron Paul has been successful largely because of his fund raising, and much of his money has come from libertarians, recreational drug enthusiasts and anti-war groups. What would happen if the GOP got behind Michele Bachmann and backed her financially instead of giving her the cold shoulder? Can we admit her poll numbers would rise significantly?

One of the main reasons Bachmann is showing so poorly is that the GOP and RINOs in the MSM are either unfairly attacking her or ignoring her sterling conservative and fiscal merits. There are no real conservatives left in the GOP leadership, which is bringing the party dangerously close to irrelevance.

If they were suddenly to turn around and show how Reagan-like Bachmann is, for example, that would change everything. After all, who would not want to return to the boom times under Reagan? It would be Reagan-Carter all over again.

A lesson that the GOP learned the hard way – again – is that when you try to hype a candidate like Newt or Mitt, who in important ways are indistinguishable from a Democrat, and who have ethical and moral issues as well, the public will eventually focus on these blemishes. Not because conservatives point them out, but because the Democrat-leaning MSM won’t let us forget.

Bachmann, to her credit, has no major skeletons, and all the criticism she has reaped so far looks like what it is: extreme nitpicking. For example, apparently one of her advisors fed her a false statement about an IEAE report showing that “Iran will have a nuclear weapon in 6 months.” I have read the latest IAEA report and although it does not say that, it actually shows that Iran has been weaponizing nuclear materials for a long time, and one can infer that it most likely will have a warhead in the near future. Ron Paul crucified her for the inaccuracy but ignored the relevant facts of that report.

At this point, the GOP has a worrisome dilemma: either choose Ron Paul, whose star is rising even as Newt’s wanes, or choose squeaky clean candidate Michele Bachmann and give her that much needed, and much deserved, extreme PR makeover.

Now would be a good time to act, before Ron Paul takes the nomination.

Michele Bachmann is probably their – and our — only chance.

Evidence that the difference between libertarianism and liberalism is paper thin:

Romney is for illegal aliens:

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/gingrich-romney-amnesty-immigration/2011/11/24/id/419071

Newt is for illegal aliens:

http://cis.org/krikorian/more-gibberish-from-newt

Ron Paul is for illegal aliens

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/7393-anti-illegal-immigration-group-awards-an-qfq-to-ron-paul

Michele Bachmann gets NumbersUSA highest grade

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/2012-presidential-hopefuls-immigration-stances.html

Further reading:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=379089

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Dave Levine
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You’re exactly right, Don. The RINO-run GOP is the problem. The left-run MSM–including FOX–has always tried to smear Conservatives or give them little attention. Bachmann’s getting a lot of attention now but it’s almost all from liberal rag reporters and columnists.

You don’t have to worry about the GOP getting behind Ron Paul–they aren’t! Paul will be lucky to get 10% in most primaries, particularly in his disgraceful exchange with Bachmann in the last debate.

Sapient
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Hi Don Let us all read together the specific STRATEGY said to be used by Ron Paul. What we will read is not written by his enemies, but by a devotee and supporter, apparently somehow affiliated with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, founded by Ron Paul’s former congressional chief of staff, for the promotion of, among other things, the political philosophy of Voluntaryism, a form of anarchy or stateless society. We find the strategy specifically outlined in the caption to a video titled “Ron Paul is a Voluntaryist,” designed to show from Ron Paul’s own words that he is a… Read more »
Doug Parris
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Sapient’s post is astonishingly vacuous! He presents no argument for his allegation that Ron Paul is an anarchist, but tells us that someone else, with whom we already disagree, says he is an anarchist. No credible argument can be made that Paul is for anything but the rule of Law. I have been amused at those for whom a return to limited, Constitutional government seems like a threat.They struggle to indict Paul by any means necessary to protect the status quo and that status quo is a government that doubles in size vis a vis the private sector in an… Read more »
Doug Parris
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And now Don: Don says, “Ron Paul’s scoffing attitude toward those of us who care about culture makes me wonder whether his administration would cater to the cultural Marxists.” Well, Don, here’s the problem. Statists think the Government should control culture. Cultural Marxists have, in fact, made their greatest incursions into our culture via Public (Socialist) Education. Ron Paul, by contrast, lines up with traditional conservatism, that is, whatever culture is or becomes should be an outgrowth of freedom, not imposed by government. If your intention is to impose Judeo Christian beliefs (Ron Paul shares, BTW), or any other social/moral/political… Read more »
Don Hank
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Doug, You are putting up a valiant fight on behalf of Ron Paul. But neither he nor my favorite Michele Bachmann voted against NDAA. We are not really in good hands no matter who wins. Don Hank http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10772387 Republicans Voting ‘Abstain’ Name Voted Rep. Michele Bachmann [R, MN-6] Abstain Rep. Howard Coble [R, NC-6] Abstain Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart [R, FL-21] Abstain Rep. Steven LaTourette [R, OH-14] Abstain Rep. Sue Myrick [R, NC-9] Abstain Rep. Ronald Paul [R, TX-14] Abstain Rep. Joseph Pitts [R, PA-16] Abstain Rep. Bill Young [R, FL-10] Abstain As for Ron’s stand on illegal immigration, it has… Read more »
Doug Parris
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You say “Michele has a B+” as if there were some course we were all taking, as if there were some, universally agreed grading system. She has a high grade from the enemies of immigration. Fred Thompson ran into this 4 years ago being called “less conservative” because he voted against Federal “tort reform,” a conservative goal with an unconstitutional methodology. He was graded “more liberal” for being, actually, more conservative. You say, “Did you know that the Constitution that Ron talks about all the time says that the US government is to protect the states from invasion.” Agreed. But… Read more »
Doris
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One can’t talk with a Ron Paul supporter. They are just like an Obama supporter. They like the ‘talk’ and can’t look beyond that. Just like a used car salemen both these men can sale one back the old car that they just traded in that was totally shot and make one think they are getting a great bargain. It happened here in ’08 when people were promissed the ‘candy store’ without the understanding that it was empty and mortgaged to the hilt. So they got the hole in the floor. Paul’s people are buying the same old kind of… Read more »
Doug Parris
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What are you talking about? Numbers USA is, quite literally against ALL immigration, not just illegal immigration. That is not a slur, as you suggest, but a demonstrable fact. From the website of Numbers, USA: “Those who need to refer to NumbersUSA Action with a short, descriptive modifier should call it an ‘immigration-reduction organization.'” What was that, again, Don? An illegal immigration reduction organization? No, it is an “immigration reduction organization” And are they conservative? What’s this? an organization “organization that favors an environmentally sustainable and economically just America” Environmental sustainability? That’s Agenda 21, Don. “Economic Justice”? That’s redistribution, Don.… Read more »
Doug Parris
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“Doris,” above, can’t make a sound argument so she relies, instead, on name calling.

Doris
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Say what you will Mr. Parris. But for for too many years I have known of Paul and his ideas. To listen to him we would have a wonderful world where everyone could do as he wishes. He calls it freedom. But is it really? There is nothing that is totally free. Most come with a high cost. To say that we don’t need to worry about Iran and that we need to make friends with them is just plain crazy. To want to legalize street drugs so that people can become stoned under the law is just plain crazy.… Read more »
Sapient
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Doug Sorry I missed your post. Re: “Sapient’s post is astonishingly vacuous! He presents no argument for his allegation that Ron Paul is an anarchist, but tells us that someone else, with whom we already disagree, says he is an anarchist. No credible argument can be made that Paul is for anything but the rule of Law.” Good deal. May I invite you to my article “Outing Ron Paul” on this forum at http://laiglesforum.com/outing-ron-paul/2850.htm#comments There is a lot of evidence, etc that I hope you will fill in the “vacuous” gap. I have already put some questions to Carol, who… Read more »
Bonnie
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Ron Paul is for illegals? If we tell the lie often enough, people will believe it? And legal pot?? No one here is old enough to remember the prohibition days when Al Capone’s mob ran a reign of terror, mayhem, killings, blood in the streets of this nation…as the Drug Cartel does along our southern border today. When drugs are legal, it will render the Drug Cartel impotent. People who WANT drugs will have to have a PRESCRIPTION and pay the tax the government places on it. When this happens, how many of you will be using or trying heroin,… Read more »
Don T
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A true conservative vs a Libertarian? LOL. Thats an oxymoron. Libertarians are the true conservatives. Your idea of conservatism IS neoconservatism…and it doesn’t surprise me one bit that you back Michele Bachmann…is she still in the race? nope!! too scary. This country has had enough of your phony neoconservatism under the disguise of faux conservatism. You believe in policing the world and our failed foreign policies…all of which the constitution doesn’t support. You blindly support Zionism and every action of the Israeli govt. So much for our Republic. But the good news is that the days of the neocon are… Read more »
Don Hank
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Don T says: “Your idea of conservatism IS neoconservatism…and it doesn’t surprise me one bit that you back Michele Bachmann…is she still in the race? nope!! too scary. This country has had enough of your phony neoconservatism under the disguise of faux conservatism. You believe in policing the world and our failed foreign policies…all of which the constitution doesn’t support. You blindly support Zionism and every action of the Israeli govt. So much for our Republic. But the good news is that the days of the neocon are coming to an end, what you don’t realize is that you’re all… Read more »
Doris
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Don T. says: Keep knocking Ron Paul; but he is ALWAYS RIGHT and here I was thinking only God is the one ALWAYS RIGHT! to say Ron Paul is ALWAYS RIGHT is one of the dumbest remarks that I have read in a long time. Are you sure you of what you stated there? Somehow the words just don’t sound right when used with Ron Paul. Anyone who thinks like Ron Paul does on drugs alone is not ALWAYS RIGHT in my books and those who agree with him on just that issue alone aren’t ALWAYS THINKING RIGHT either. By… Read more »
Bonnie
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Don, you said, “It’s an all too common theme and it describes an all too common human trait: the desire for freedom for ME (but not so much for YOU).” Is this in context with drugs? That was what we were discussing, wasn’t it? If so, then how is the freedom for someone else to use the drug of their choice depriving you of your freedom (to use or not to use)? I do have doubts of whether or not legalizing drugs is the answer. My latest is, “Maybe it’s a ploy of the government to get control of something… Read more »
Bonnie
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I should clarify my statement, “Meanwhile, we’ll just listen to the modern day “prophets” who continue to tell us that Israel is the land and people in the middle east that was formed in 1948…but really began in 1917? Thank you, but no.” to read: “they are not the ONLY Israelites in the world. There are Israelites in Europe and North America, Australia, as well. Actually there are more in the rest of the world than are in Middle East Israel.”

Doug Parris
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I note that there are posts following my last, here, on Dec. 21 of which I was unaware and, hence, ignored, inadvertently. And the fact is that I do not have time to respond, at present. So one must imagine the brilliant rebuttals I would have posted, or, alternatively, that I was so overwhelmed by the responses I got that I am unable to respond… unless, of course, I eventually do
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Bonnie
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Don, you said “As for Ron’s stand on illegal immigration, it has evolved over the years, and now that elections are nigh, he suddenly sounds conservative. But how is it that Michele has a B+ on immigration while Paul has had a failing to near-failing grade for years.” I get emails almost daily from NumbersUSA as I’ve been member for several years. I had to take Roy Beck to task in one of his emails as he had left out Ron Paul when he most certainly should not have. Just as the media does on a daily basis. Think about… Read more »
Bonnie
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This is from Ron Paul’s campaign website: From his campaign website: A nation without borders is no nation at all. It just doesn’t make sense to fight terrorists abroad while leaving our front door unlocked. Unfortunately, for far too long, neither major political party has had the courage to do what is necessary to tackle the problem. Instead, we’re presented with so-called “solutions” that involve amnesty proposals or further restricting Americans’ civil liberties through programs like REAL ID. Ron Paul opposes both of these schemes and believes they will only make illegal immigration and the problems associated with it worse.… Read more »
Bonnie
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And for the above, NumbersUSA gave him an F? WHY?!

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