Comments on: Is it too late?

By: Anthony

Anthony — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:37:34 +0000

Hi Don and Dave,

I think Bob’s point is that nobody’s perfect. If we waited for the perfect candidate, we’d never vote for anyone. Given that, if I understand Bob aright, if at least we can move the ball closer to limited government we ought to try.

I share the frustration with the two party system, which I am sure that you know. However, I am concerned that sometimes we apply too stringent testing and so cut off possible allies and friends. Imagine a scale from 1 to 100 with 100 being the perfect candidate and 1 being the worst. In the NY election, the Dem candidate was a 1, and the initial GOP selection was a 5. Clearly, that says something rotten about the GOP in NY and perhaps in general. But then Hoffman comes along, and he’s an 80.

In a vote between Hitler and, say, Reagan, who do we vote for? Reagan wasn’t perfect, either, but against the unfathomable evil that Hitler represented and hoped to achieve… Reagan would get my vote. It wasn’t like Hoffman was a 6. He was much, much, better than the other two candidates just as Reagan, for all his warts, was still much, much better than Hitler (and Carter, of course!)

I think that there is a trend to summarily dismiss people who don’t fit the mold perfectly, both politically and religiously. Certainly, caution, wisdom, and discernment need to be exercised. But also grace.

I would take a conservative-constitutionalist-libertarian-Christian as an ally wherever I found him, if only because the day is coming- if it isn’t upon us already- when we will need allies wherever we find them.

(I expect that it is easier to persuade allies than it is an enemy, as well.)

By: LAIGLESFORUM

LAIGLESFORUM — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:18:52 +0000

Hello Bob,
Thanks for sharing your views.
It sounds like you are afraid that a government that is increasingly hostile to the idea of even having a border might somehow turn around and build a “Berlin-style wall” at the Canadian and Mexican borders. Why not expend your excess worry on somethinig more worthwhile, like whether you and your family might be abducted by extraterrestrials?
I crossed the Berlin wall in 1964 and one of the first things that impressed me was that the wall was built to trap people inside, not prevent them from entering — at variance with liberal opinion in the US.
So the only way we will ever have a Berlin style wall will be when we have been communized and other countries are still free.
We will never have limited government if we merge with Canada and Mexico (and then with other countries), as the CFR would like us to do. A suspicious no. of past presidents, secretaries of state and other departments and other officials in BOTH PARTIES have been and are members of that globalist organization that aims to end sovereignty. I would not worry too much about limited government if the UN becomes our boss.
The only way we can have limited government is to start weeding out the globalists immediately. Anyone who responds to a question about border protection and amnesty by saying, as Hoffman has, that we have to deport alien criminals is missing the point.
He is in essence denying the fact that all illegal aliens have violated the law in the first place. In my opinion, anyone who can’t admit that is denying that he wants limited government.
A person who only wants to deport illegal aliens who are criminals is making a HUGE mistake. About 25 Americans die every day as a result of illegal alien criminals who should NEVER have been allowed to come here but were allowed to stay to coddle a bunch of spoiled rotten aliens who have been told all their lives that Americans owe them a job and a home.
I am not convinced that Doug Hoffman is aware of any of this, and if he is, whether he cares. Too many politicians play along with the far-left open-border people, and we don’t need another one.

By: Bob Howard

Bob Howard — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:13:11 +0000

Sorry, but nothing about Dede Scozzafava thrills me. Why? This is a political campaign by self-serving politicians. Political science 101 is about marginalization and triangulation. Political science 101 is about making your opponent look bad. Every issue is an opportunity to marginalize. Is the candidate really against illegal immigration? How much is he or she against it? Is he willing to build a “Berlin style wall” along the Canadian and Mexican border? He is he willing to spend at least $100 billion more on the Navy to blockade the east and west coast? Is he willing to allow immigrants to pick fruit? Is he willing to allow the NHL to use foreign hockey players? Is he willing to allow foreign investment if it creates jobs? What about the “right type” of jobs? If I ask enough of questions there is not a candidate that anyone can support. Marginalization is the “mother’s milk” of politics.

My goal is the defense of Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This translates to supporting limited government and defending freedom. Therefore, I look for candidates willing to “lower taxes” and “cut spending.” More freedom, more God, and less government are the only solutions to the human condition. Government by definition is Godless. Government is all about serving and promoting an institution of men.

I am not interested in a “police state” in the name of defending God, “my culture”, the boarders, and rejecting sin. God does not need a government law or politician to call abortion a sin and condemn persons to Hell. We need God fearing citizens to get the government off our backs, so we can share God’s wisdom with others. I lived and worked in Europe for three years. I helped pay (with my taxes) for a “Ministry of Culture”. I paid for “strict control” of immigration. They were all dysfunctional institutions with the real intent of generating tax revenue and creating union members to serve the state. The poor and unborn are best served when you and I limit government and take personal responsibility to enable them. Look for the candidate most willing to “limit government.”

I am thrilled that Dede Scozzafava’s radical views have not been accepted by the public. That means there is hope for those of us who support the values of American exceptionalism and Liberty.

By: LAIGLESFORUM

LAIGLESFORUM — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:48:02 +0000

Thanks again, Dave. I have heard from a lot of readers on a back channel and, surprisingly, they are agreeing with me here. During the Bush years, there were a lot of true blue Republicans out there who would tongue-lash you for advocating a third party.
But meantime, Obama has actually helped in that regard — sort of the way Stalin helped the cause of freedom by turning the USSR into a big concentration camp and proving to the world that his system is a loser.
But here is what we can take away from this: Whether you vote R or D, the main thing we need to do is get the word out that our present congress and senate are almost all complete traitors, for voting for baiouts and stimulus packages when they knew the people didn’t want that. True liberals didn’t want to banks to get our money. Neither did true conservatives. For the first time, we Americans really can work together on a common cause: separation of business and state. I just talked with an American guy today who lost his fortune by investing in AIG. He said after they were bailed out, they did a negative stock split and after he had spent thousands of dollars, he wound up with 2 shares!
I told him that I stopped investing in the stock market a long time ago when I noticed that free market principles were no longer driving the markets but rather, governments — ours in particular but also others, particularly in Europe.

By: Dave Levine

Dave Levine — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:39:11 +0000

What’s sad, Jeffrey, is to see all the capital wasted on a rich Republican who is not a conservative when there are true conservatives out there like John Wayne Tucker in South St. Louis who need our money and support and who the RINOcratic RNC refuses to get behind! If only they would wake up. Instead, fools like Gingrich back the liberal (who’s now dropped out) and idiots like McCain and Cornyn go around raising money for young RINOs they want to see win in 2010. If Hoffman would show he’s tough on illegal immigration, show he’s a real law and order man, he’d get a lot of support. But most people don’t bother looking behind the scenes at who these candidates really are.

By: Patriot Pastor Garrett Lear

Patriot Pastor Garrett Lear — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:56:19 +0000

While there is life there is hope.
John Adams said the duty is ours, the results are GOD’S! With GOD all things are possible. Faith without works is dead.

By: Jeffrey Long

Jeffrey Long — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:25:24 +0000

Too bad this is so depressing, but I guess I a coming to accept that this will always be the scenario, especially with any Northeast Republican; a New Yorker at that.