Comments on: Book shows homosexuals can be reclaimed

By: Arthur Goldberg

Arthur Goldberg — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:02:09 +0000

Hector Menezes suggests that he objects to the idea that homosexuality can be cured. Such a statement typifies the constant barrage of media bias that leads one to such a belief. In actual fact, not one of the researchers commonly cited by the gay activists and their liberal allies have reported anything close to proving the genetic origins of sexual orientation. The studies they commonly cited are all done by gay activists and have never been replicated. For example, there are studies of identical twins done by the gay activists that actually supports the opposite of what the activists contend it says. Those studies prove the lack of genetics. In truth, if one twin is gay and if it is genetic, it would be assumed that the concordance rate would be 100%. However, the twin’s studies by Michael Bailey show a high of 52% and a low of 7% as the rate where both twins are gay. A far cry from 100%. There are a myriad number of case studies showing how individuals have transformed themselves from gay to straight. For those interested, there is significant data in the book Light in the Closet on these very topics as well as an in depth discussion of cultural issues and biblical principles.

By: LAIGLESFORUM

LAIGLESFORUM — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:02:13 +0000

Heitor,
Now I really do feel bad for you, even though I think you may have made some major mistakes here, although I don’t know how you behaved in front of your parents, so I don’t know. Maybe they are to blame in large part. Look, fellow: try to think of all the things you did or said to them. One mistake a lot of homosexuals make is being too in-your-face with their family, sort of challenging them to accept you for what you are. You need to understand that for your parents, you are the son they always thought would have grandchildren for them. Maybe you were the only son, not sure, but if you are, then for gosh sake, try to understand the heartache of 2 parents who will never have grandkids, not because their son is sick or disabled, but because he, a perfectly healthy specimen, with a perfectly functional God-given reproductive system just like his dad’s, has chosen, of his own volition, to have a male “lover.” (Sorry, I can’t write it without quotes. It just isn’t right). I wonder if you have had any experiences in your early developing years that caused you to be homosexual. Several commonly occurring causes are possible for this disorder. PLEASE, I know it is hard to hear people call it a disorder, but it is. I don’t hate you. In fact, my
Commander-in-Chief says I am to love you and I do, without any reservations. But let us not pretend that your behavior is normal,ok? Let’s start there and then take it a step further next time, ok?
I wish you all the best and am not trying to be flippant here. I hope I did not come off that way. Let me be absolutely clear: I can accept you as a person, but I cannot accept your behavior. In fact, I cannot accept some of my own heterosexual behavior at times. But I know when I am doing wrong. You, however, are denying your own bad behavior.

By: heitor Menezes

heitor Menezes — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:47:49 +0000

Oh, I love my parents – you have no idea how much. I wish I could teach them how to return my calls. I am not bitter. I am a very happy chappy. To clarify, I am not the liberal you mentioned. Please do not label me as one of those. I just think you are fighting non-sense liberal freaks (indeed most of them are)with the wrong tools. Maybe one day justice will be really fair, and we both will be happier.

By: LAIGLESFORUM

LAIGLESFORUM — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:17:23 +0000

Heitor,
Here is why I can’t sympathize with your side:
If a Christian says he disagrees with homosexuality in Europe or Canada, he can be arrested or made to pay a huge fine. YOUR side is politically correct and has the liberal media, municipal police forces, universities and even mainstream churches on their side. Tradtional people are the people whose viewpoint is no longer tolerated and I take their side. I just do. I know some are not tolerant enough. But your side is worse. A man in Massachusetts was arrested at a school board meeting because he objected that his 5 year old boy was being indoctrinated in kindergarten by people who were telling him it is fine for children to engage in homosexual behavior if they wish. Maybe that doesn’t bother you. I have a major problem with it. This man was led away in handcuffs and the school board slapped him with a restraining order. He can no longer come within several yards of his son’s school I will never give up in my battle against that. Personally, I have met and befriended a few homosexuals at work and also one who used to mow my lawn. After being around them I realized that they thought they were above the law. One told me he had had sex with a minor student of his and the other once made a remark about my infant son being attractive to him. He thought it was funny. I didn’t. they are both morons and if I ever had caught them at anything with a minor it would have been too bad for them! Look, I probably would not do what your parents did to you. They should love you despite your same-sex attraction. But you should love them too. It seems like you are the bitter one here. Get over it. We traditional people are not going away either.

By: heitor Menezes

heitor Menezes — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:46:25 +0000

I am very sorry you seem to have missed my point. I am a lucid person, who analyses and studies everything carefully before making wrong assumptions. I am not the “kind of person who would say anything to make an argument.” My opinion was addressed only to the idea that homosexuality can be cured. I do not support promiscuity, pedophilia, or anything that is indeed harmful to society. I do not even support the majority of people in the gay community, who seem to have no common-sense when deciding what is right and wrong about the subject. But I do not think that condemning someone to live a life of solitude, forbid them to adopt a child who needs someone to love and be loved is the most humanitarian thing to do. What the world needs is more flexibility and common sense (and hence more rules). I disagree with same-sex marriage with any religious support (why would you want the blessing of a community that abominates you, no matter who you are and how good to society you have been?). But to deny two people who love each other with the same NATURE of passion as described in any literature of any nation, of any credo, the right to have a happy steady life under the eyes of the law (I am talking about Civil Unions), seems to me one of the most cruel things one can think of. I have met too many people who were separated from their family because of intolerance, sons and daughters departing America because they could not bring their foreign beloved ones to live with them. Children who grew up in fear because of their sexuality, kids who had a miserable childhood because their friends and colleagues had no understanding of what being a homosexual really means. And yes, there is AIDS, there are sexually transmitted diseases, there are divorces among homosexuals who got married in countries who recognize their relationship. But to take those numbers as evidence that any homosexual will be evil and to act in favor of ruining someone’s life just because you BELIEVE they are wrong? Now answering your question: “No sane human being would ask to spend his/her whole life wondering who their biological father or mother is. Be honest: you would not want to have been brought up with that handicap, now would you? There, I thought so.” You thought so? I haven’t said anything yet. If I could choose between being raised by a single non-biological father or mother who loved, understood, and respected me for who I am, and a solid Christian family who tried everything possible to change my nature, and after realizing they failed (even though I NEVER failed with my obligation to be a good son), just preferred to ignore and abandon me in favor of their religious beliefs – then, I am sorry, but I have to admit that I would be very happy to have never met any of my biological parents. I have wonderful friends with common-sense. Those are the people who I think are entitled to help and lead me to a better life.

By: LAIGLESFORUM

LAIGLESFORUM — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:29:50 +0000

Hello Heitor,
Not sure what an “impressive absurd” is(?). Homosexuality, defined as an attraction for the same sex, is perfectly harmless. homosexuality when put into ACTION has side effects. About 70% of AIDS cases in the US are ACTIVE homosexual males. Of course, you may argue that that is a coincidence? You sound like the kind of person who would say anything to make an argument, so go ahead, make my day.
Doctors also report a much higher incidence of anal disease among practicing male homosexuals. And the mental anguish and other emotional torment associated with homosexuality are documented (Google it).
But that isn’t even the worst of it. When you legally recognize homosexual “marriage,” you put into motion a scheme by which homosexuals can marry and adopt children. Bringing up children with either no father or no mother is child abuse. No sane human being would ask to spend his/her whole life wondering who their biological father or mother is. Be honest: you would not want to have been brought up with that handicap, now would you? There, I thought so.

By: Heitor Menezes

Heitor Menezes — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:28:32 +0000

This is one of the most impressive absurd I have read in a long time. Homosexuality isn’t a disease, it does not kill, it does not degenerate your body, and it is not contagious. Homosexuality is noticed at a very early age in children (the purest stage in human life) – stop looking for answers in psychology books and ask the homosexuals themselves. They will all agree with me. At least the honest ones.