Comments on: Another Rick Warren defender persecutes godly preacher / author

By: the non conformer

the non conformer — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:27:15 +0000

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/and-more-false-cover-ups/

By: The ungodly, unholy wars now amongst Christians « Witnessed

The ungodly, unholy wars now amongst Christians « Witnessed — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:52:04 +0000

[...] it: Have you ever heard of Billy Graham followers going after his detractors like that?” http://laiglesforum.com/2008/08/18/302/#comment-17047 and yet many Evangelical, Pentecostal preachers have now also done the same now too.. including [...]

By: LAIGLESFORUM

LAIGLESFORUM — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:32:58 +0000

Hello and welcome Barb. Now there are 4. Your words reminded me for some reason of Luke 6:26:
Woe unto you when all men shall speak well of you! For so did their fathers to the false prophets.
It is as though the Purpose Driven Church had never heard these words.
Which reminds me in turn of:
Matt. 13-13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing SEE NOT; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

V14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
V15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

We can only pray — if it is not too late — that Rick will be given spiritual eyes and ears, and be healed.

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:11:18 +0000

Warren pledges to police the blogosphere?

See following exerpt from
Warren: Blogosphere Uncivilized, Faith is Simply a Worldview

Warren: Blogosphere Uncivilized, Faith is Simply a Worldview

Goldberg opens the interview asking Warren what is the objective of the forum. Warren comments: “The idea is really around civility”.

Goldberg takes a quantum detour off the subject and asks a seemingly off-topic question: “So you’re against blogging?”

Warren responds, “Right now civility is a losing battle. It’s easy to demonize from a distance. When people sit behind a screen they lose all civility…One of my three life goals is to help restore civility to civilization.”

Warren instantly sets up the blogosphere as the litmus test for global civility. Warren implies that the blogosphere is uncivilized and his goal apparently is to “restore civility” not just to the entire world, but cyberspace as well.

By: Another Rick Warren Defender Persecutes Godly Preacher / Author - Reformata

Another Rick Warren Defender Persecutes Godly Preacher / Author - Reformata — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:40:02 +0000

[...] Donald Hank at Laigle’s Forum we read: There is something sinister going on here. James Sundquist (see below) had read my [...]

By: Barb

Barb — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:04:29 +0000

In regard to this portion of James Sundquist’s post…

>on August 16, 2008, Rick Warren asked both Presidential Candidates John McCain (member of North Phoenix Baptist Church) and Senator Obama this question at his national televised forum:

“What should the U.S. do to end religious persecution?” <

Having watched the second half of the telecast, in which Rick Warren was interviewing John McCain, I was absolutely AMAZED that a professing Christian pastor would ask such a ridiculous question. If he is representative of the American church, then may God help us. We have truly lost our way.

Does this man NOT read his Bible, or has his favorite (per)version, The Message, also managed to obliterate the numerous certainties that Christians WILL surely suffer persecution in this world?

First, the Lord Jesus Himself told us that the world WILL hate us, just as it hated Him. No servant is greater than his Master.

Secondly, the Lord Jesus also assured us that in this world we WILL have tribulation, adding to be of good cheer because He had overcome the world.

Finally, our brother Paul, writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, assured us that all who live Godly in Christ WILL suffer persecution.

Are we now reduced to begging Caesar to give us protection against those things that God promised we would suffer, and, in effect, trying to avoid being partakers of the sufferings of Christ?

We would do well to remember the Lord’s words, when He said, “He who saves his life will surely lose it.”

If it be His will, may God open Rick Warren’s eyes before it is too late. And may we trust God enought to accept whatever lies ahead if us, even if that includes persecution, and, if so, may we rejoice when we are found worthy to suffer persecution for His name’s sake, to God’s glory alone.

By: LAIGLESFORUM

LAIGLESFORUM — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:11:10 +0000

Hello Brothers James and Michael,
I can’t tell you what it means to me to see two stalwart men of God standing up to Goliath like this while others literally cower in fear.
I just got off the phone with a number of people, pastors and at least one radio preacher, who had been threatened by the Purpose Driven Mafia (PDM), as I now call them, and one had been told by his station owner never to mention RW again. Others have left their churches and are no longer there. I was unable to speak with any of the pastors so far.
This is a reign of terror like this country has never known, and until we end this scourge, this is NOT America. I was not born in the country that we have become and with God’s help, I will not die in it!
To the rest of you:
I know you are afraid. I would be afraid too if I didn’t realize one important fact: One man with God is an army. Yet there are three of us standing up against tyranny here at this Forum. Imagine that power!
Even if you personally do not dare open your mouths to defend your faith against what can only be considered a hostile takeover of American Christianity, you can still pray, and I beseech you to pray without stopping until we have our country and our freedom back.
Only with God’s help can we get through this shameful crisis of our own creation, created by our fears and our ignorance!

By: James Sundquist

James Sundquist — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:52:41 +0000

Dear Reverend Shenck,

I must passionately appeal to you to reconsider your praise of Rick Warren, having heard your commendation for his forum. I have written two books on him exposing his teachings, published by Southwest Radio Church (swrc.com).

on August 16, 2008, Rick Warren asked both Presidential Candidates John McCain (member of North Phoenix Baptist Church) and Senator Obama this question at his national televised forum:

“What should the U.S. do to end religious persecution?”

I was just staggered at the audacity of that question in light of the host of churches destroyed and dismembered by Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Church teachings and his global blueprint for “resisters” and Christian Fundamentalists (which is what I had thought North Phoenix Baptist Church was) whom he calls “enemies of the 21st Century”, who oppose his PDC agenda, as documented in the above Spiritual Euthanasia article. The question we must pose to all true Christians in the U.S., and around the world should be:

“What can the church do to end religious persecution by Rick Warren and his Purpose Driven hostile takeovers of many Christian denominations?”

2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:

2Jo 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds

Kindest regards in Christ,

James Sundquist
Director
Rock Salt Publishing

By: Rev Michael Bresciani

Rev Michael Bresciani — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:04:23 +0000

Thanks for this powerful article. Warren is off on a power trip for sure. I can’t imagine where he thinks it will all end. As you said its about God’s power not ours.

Rev MB