Republicans’ mass revolt against McCain
76% of Republican voters dissatisfied with McCain
Folks, it’s one thing for 86% of self-described “very conservative” voters to reject McCain. It could be difficult to decide how to identify that demographic, and if you listen to the GOP leadership, it is not that important.
But a full 76% of Republicans in the Big Tent, which includes what the GOP top leadership would like us to believe are numerous RINOs with views like theirs, are dissatisfied with McCain.
This means that McCain had better pray for the Democrat and independent vote. He surely can’t count on ours.
Newsmax, Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:09 AM
Nearly half of likely voters - 48 percent - are not satisfied with the current candidates for president, with Republicans and conservative voters the most unhappy about their likely candidate choices in November, a new nationwide Zogby Interactive poll shows.
In what could spell bad news for the presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, an overwhelming 86 percent of self-described “very conservative” voters said they are displeased with the current presidential candidates, and 65 percent of these voters said they are very unsatisfied.
Read more here.
TIME to pressure the GOP
The following column by Nedd Kareiva of stoptheaclu.org makes sense to me.
I had previously said, mostly tongue-in-cheek, that McCain could still get the votes of conservatives like me by doing some Herculean tasks while in the senate, including talking his fellow senators into putting up that non-virtual border fence and talking the president into pardoning jailed border guards Ramos and Compean.
We all knew that wouldn’t happen. But few imagined he would be insane and defiant enough to meet with La Raza. That pretty much clinches it for me, and judging by the latest Zogby poll, it clinches it for many of you too.
I urge you to take Nedd’s advice and contact the GOP. Let them know you mean business.
Think it can’t work? Remember how we stopped amnesty!
Donald Hank
Folks, if you want the GOP to dump John McCain and in an emergency switch, replace him with someone like Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson, forward this to the GOP at info@gop.com (you can also phone or fax them -it’s on the home page of their website http://www.gop.com/). Tell them you will not vote for him and if you have in the past given to the party, you will no longer do so. Flood their mailbox with thousands, if not millions, of e-mails. Then pass this on to as many patriots as you can who would otherwise vote for him. The GOP must get the message now.
Note these points from the Newsmax article:
In what could spell bad news for the presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, an overwhelming 86 percent of self-described “very conservative” voters said they are displeased with the current presidential candidates, and 65 percent of these voters said they are very unsatisfied.
Obama and Hillary can help cancel each other out and may cause a great loss of votes for them (regardless of which may be the nominee); however, the hemorrhaging will be even much greater if the Zogby poll is accurate. And given Zogby’s previous polls, it would be fairly safe to assume that. The GOP conservative base is largely demoralized because of McCain at the top. If the GOP was pressured unprecedently, they could make him walk the plank and still make something left of the presidential race. The odds are not great but they are better if McCain is gone and more so if there is a true conservative on the ticket, even if the name recognition is not the best. McCain’s recent speech to La Raza should be the icing on the cake that we cannot have him as our president.
I don’t think anyone reading this would vote for Obama or Hillary but if you are tempted to vote for McCain, please get this to the GOP ASAP and spread the word like wildfire. And if you are tempted like me to vote for Chuck Baldwin on the Constitution ticket (some of you may be voting for Ron Paul or Bob Barr on the Libertarian ticket), I am not dissuading you from doing so but in order to have the best possibility of winning, we need a tried and true conservative Republican. This is a slam dunk for conservatives if we miraculously get one because Hillary and Obama are easily defeatable due to their records. But with McCain on the ticket, he’s bringing us all down. So if the GOP stays with McCain, we must go third party. But we should only do so if all efforts to get someone like Hunter, Thompson (or even Huckabee - yikes, I hate saying that) or Tancredo fail. Give this one more shot.
These numbers (86% & 65%) should be beyond convincing evidence that the Republican Party must give McCain the boot. They’re damning figures But if the GOP doesn’t do so, we must help facilitate that effort. And if they still don’t, then we must do what we have to do. For those of us who are Christians, we must only vote for just and God-fearing men (II Sam. 23:3). McCain is neither and he is what we would call the lesser of two evils. But the lesser of two evils is still evil. This is a no-brainer in my book. And I hope and pray yours. A good Republican in the White House with a Democratic Congress is better than a bad Republican (or any Democrat) with a Democratic Congress.
Again, forward this far and wide if you agree with it - I hope you do. God bless and thank you for your understanding this one time.
For America’s future & ours,
Nedd
P.S. Note that the previous info is in my own capacity and not that of the Stop the ACLU Coalition.
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Rep. Istook: Pretzel Logic Behind Gay Marriage
Newsmax, Friday, May 16, 2008 9:49 AM
By: Ernest Istook
The law was just a plaything to California’s Supreme Court, and the justices twisted logic into a pretzel as they legalized same-sex marriage by judicial fiat.
The court also exposed the danger created by wishy-washy lawmakers who push “civil unions” or “domestic partnerships” as a supposed middle-ground compromise. That actually is a deadly policy of appeasement. It was the very existence of such laws that the justices used to justify this outrageous decision.
By trying to appease homosexual rights activists, those who have refused to stand up for traditional marriage helped to create this court ruling. They are the Neville Chamberlains of the cultural wars.
Read more here.
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May 18th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
The 14% who are not dissatisfied with McCain are NOT “very Conservative”! I’ve been contacting the National and the Ohio republican Party for a couple of years, complaining about their Liberal ways and no success. I’ve actually been dismissed; they no longer send me mail
May 18th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Not Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson.
Ron Paul is the only conservative in the race (and he is still running).
Any ‘christian’ who recommends otherwise…is simply not informed on the real issues facing this country today.
May 18th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
The GOP is in BIG trouble. However, I am not confident that a Zogby poll’s results is enough to cause this RINO-led party to toss out it’s presumptive nominee. As an Independent conservative to the right of Pat Buchanan, I could care less WHAT the GOP does. For all I care, they can all go to blazes, including their presumptive nominee! That being said, this is certainly interesting news I received from Laigles Forum. I’m not saying that it (the GOP being forced to dump McCain) won’t happen, but surely most of you know in your heart of hearts that it almost certainly won’t, for a number of reasons:
-The GOP, given it’s selection of Bush I in ‘92, Dole in ‘96 and Bush II in 2000 and 2004 is no longer a conservative party nor has it been since the days of Barry Goldwater in ‘64. Conservatives have been fooling themselves if they think it represents them–it doesn’t! It represents, quite obviously, big business (Open Borders, Amnesty, huge tax breaks for corporations, etc.)–not conservatives! And those are huge donors to the GOP. The last thing the GOP wants to do is drive them away. Conservatives are seen as “the pariahs” of the GOP which is one reason so many have already left.
-Greed. But not corporate greed, I mean individual RINO, plaid-panted country club greed, and greed by the modest income Republican voters. Just like the powerful corporate heads they work for, the lemming middle class RINOs ALSO want illegal alien cheap laborers watering and mowing their lawns, trimming their trees and so what if they drop a gazillion anchor/jackpot babies here in the process? So what if the American taxpayers (which includes them) foot the bill? So what if our hospitals are closed, closing or on the verge of bankruptcy because of giving free medical services to 40 million illegal aliens living in the U.S.? So what if mega-states like CA are going bankrupt and whose idiot Governors are planning to RELEASE CONVICTED CRIMINALS FROM CA PRISONS TO CUT DOWN ON STATE MONEY SPENT ON THEIR INCARCERATION, leaving citizens of that state unprotected from these vermin? Has anyone–other than anti-Invasion conservatives–bothered asking WHY CA is going bankrupt? Isn’t ANYONE using intelligence and basic logic to come to the only conclusion possible–that there are in fact NOT 4 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS IN CA BUT RATHER, THERE ARE CLOSE TO 20 MILLION? What else could be bankrupting that state? Mismanagement? I don’t think so. Back to “greedy individual voters”. They could care less about “who” mows their lawn–as long as someone else (using their insane logic) has to pay for the incarceration of 33% of all jailed and imprisoned convicts, the million-plus per year anchor babies being knocked out by their illegal alien wives, the ridiculously high auto insurance rates caused in large part (and admitted to by the big insurance companies) by “uninsured motorists” which is a euphemism for illegal aliens who are not allowed to drive in most states, the insane rise in medical/hospital costs due to the care we Americans give free to illegals all over the country thanks to the former SCOTUS, the billions in WIC money–that’s Federal tax dollars, these greedy middle class Republicans’ money and mine–doled out (pardon the unintended pun) to the millions of illegal alien women with their anchor babies who are truly “living off the public dole”, so on and so forth? Of course, we on then right know the truth of the matter–WE ALL PAY FOR THIS!! It’s just that it doesn’t hurt the wealthy like it hurts the rest of us.
-If they threw McCain under a bus at this point or at any point, he’d fight the action tooth and nail. I personally think that they’re afraid of the man. They don’t want to antagonize him! In fact, I believe that’s the reason they never tossed him out of the GOP when he voted so often with the Libs and especially with blocking conservative judges using The Gang Of 14. I think they fear John McCain.
-And lastly, Party loyalty. Now, I’ve already admitted that I’m no longer a Republican, but that is true for many conservatives who left the Party from ‘96 to today. The fact IS, many of us would return if the Party changed back to what it was supposed to be about in the first place, before the neocons and globalist RINOs hijacked it. I personally have no loyalty to the GOP, but if the Party changed to reflect my core values, I would very likely return, and I believe that would be true for most ex-patriot conservatives. However, it would take “some doing” on the part of the GOP. And “some doing” would be along the lines that Nedd and Don suggest above–the removal of McCain as the Party’s torchbearer. Nobody could be more inappropriate for the leadership of the GOP than the enemy of conservatives, Juan McCain. If he were running for President of Mexico, McCain would probably win in a landslide, because he’s the best friend that the Invasion and the corrupt Mexican government ever had. When a political party puts loyalty to that party above right and wrong, above lawbreaking and aiding and abetting lawbreakers AND, most agregiously, above treason by it’s leaders (by which I mean allowing the continuation of the Invasion of the United States by a foreign country), then that party deserves to be brought down as is happening to the GOP. Sadly, the consequences–which it can no longer blame on the base or conservatives in general–are of it’s own doing.
The McCain nomination is like the pied piper going off a cliff and taking brain-dead lemmings with him. Many will simply follow him over the cliff. Some believe that a Condi VP selection will “stop the bleeding”, as if Ms. Rice as VP would bring the base back! Others hope McCain will pick Romney. I used to be one of those till I realized how foolish that would be. For one thing, Romney was never seen as a string conservative. He was just “the next best thing” to having McCain.
Bravo to Nedd and Don in pointing out that some of us GOP ex-patriots (we’re still patriots, just not GOP patriots!) have been watching what’s been happening over at The Constitution Party, and we’re ecstatic about Rev. Chuck Baldwin’s blowout win over Alan “nut job” Keyes. While anyone with a brain knows that the numbers simply aren’t there for Rev. Chuck to beat the GOP or Demo nominee, he represents everything some of us want in a leader–he’s far tougher than Tancredo or Hunter on the Invasion by Mexico, he wants to end birthright citizenship which is a magnet for illegal aliens, he wants the U.N. out of the U.S. and the U.S. out of the U.N., he wants to stop off-shoring of American companies and jobs, he wants us out of that hellhole in Iraq created by a recession-led Bush II and he wants us to stop doing the dipsy-do with the Little Red Devil in China (who, thanks to Bush’s appeasement, we’ve armed with our own technology to the teeth). Unlike Peroutka before him in 2004, he doesn’t use “God” in every sentence, turning off those of us who aren’t looking for a preacher President, just for a President. That’s pretty amazing for a preacher to pull off, wouldn’t you agree? Bringing back those of us who are supporting Rev. Chuck isn’t going to be easy.
I personally don’t see any way that the GOP mucky mucks can be brought to a smoky back room and told that “Either you dump McCain, or we dump YOU!” by the base. I think there are just too many “conservatives” that will swallow hard and pull the lever for that failed Senator from AZ, the Champion of Amnesty, the bane of conservatives. I really don’t think those mucky mucks care about the base. They want crossover and Independent votes and to keep their corporate cheap illegal labor-loving donors happy.
But, maybe I’m wrong. There’s always hope. But time is running out. The GOP is in BIG trouble. That longtime conservative House seat lost the other day in Mississippi to a Democrat showed that that is the case. If the House stays in Pelosi’s hands, we’ll have Amnesty (which Feinstein has already succeeded in ramming thru the Senate the other night) and that will bring in another 40-60 million illegals from Mexico. It will spell the end of the nation.
Can a few conservative activists really change that? I wish I were that confident.
May 19th, 2008 at 12:34 am
The real question in my mind is whether or not the GOP will even survive a McCain candidacy. The Whigs fell out of favor with their base [big time!] then forced a war candidate upon them, a la McCain. The Whigs lost the election, carrying I believe, less than thirty percent of the national vote. The party never recovered and the GOP was born. It seems to be a party unable to learn from its own history and thus doomed to go the way of the Whigs. I have been a loyal Republican for forty years, but this year I see two possible ways to vote: one is to write in Ron Paul and the other is to vote for Chuck Baldwin. The GOP has betrayed us and it does not deserve our support. The best chance this nation has, short of a Paul or Baldwin presidency which is unlikely, is a Republican Congress to gridlock a Democrat president while we the people figure out how to dump the whole socialist/globalist lot of them.
May 19th, 2008 at 3:02 am
The last I heard Ron Paul is still running on the Republican ticket. Why don’t we urge the GOP leadership to back him? He is still heads and shoulders above every other candidate in how he stands by the Constitution in what he says and does and according to his voting record.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Action, other than spending foolishly, is what is wanted. Position papers, introducing legislation, reaching across the ailese, meeting with foes, making up entitlements, debating…these things got us to where we are. The GOP ‘did’ nothing because they stand for nothing.
I am a farmer and I get cussed at because of the ‘farm bill’ that has precious little to do with farming. Goodbye GOP, you have sold your soul.